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A guy I know has a 103 SB and was talking about putting an oil cooler on. But after hearing me talk up the temp reductions my Love Jugs Mighty Mites provided he's considering ditching the cooler and getting the LJ's. He's not going to spend on both, and I normally would have recommended going the OC way, but with the numbers I'm seeing as a result of the fans, I think if its one or the other, the fans are the way to go.
That being said, if the LJ's are dropping engine temps by the 30-40 degrees they seem to be doing (not just to my bike - others are saying the same) is an oil cooler really needed?
Of course it'll add to the cooling, but if the bikes are running 230-240 is it needed?
That being said, if the LJ's are dropping engine temps by the 30-40 degrees they seem to be doing (not just to my bike - others are saying the same) is an oil cooler really needed?
Of course it'll add to the cooling, but if the bikes are running 230-240 is it needed?
No... Yes..., Maybe
That 30 - 40 degrees you see touted
Jug temp.., or oil temp
And at this (cooler) time of the year - when more cooling expected
Give it a year..., measure all three.., at various time throughout the year - then you can formulate an informed opinion - based on data
I haven't tested - so I can't provide an informed opinion
I can certainly pull an opinion out of my *** if you like - but to what end
230 - 240 is still on the hot side - especially this time of year
Mchad, can you measure oil temp with the PV or just head temp?
You could always cover the oil cooler or let it idle and see how the oil and head temps compare.
Unfortunately, you can't measure oil temps with the Power Vision; HD saw fit to only give us one engine sensor, located on the back of the front cylinder near the head. A completely dishonest number, to be sure; I'd like a sensor on the rear cylinder as well, that's where the flippin' heat is and the actual truth is.
Knowing that ET the Power Vision shows me is HD's Pollyanna approach I realize the rear is much hotter, so I proceed on the side of how low can I get those displayed numbers; an oil cooler makes sense to me, those fans may be lowering your observed ET's on the one and only sensor but I suspect that true engine temperatures are still much hotter than that.
Do everything you can to keep your ride cool; take the limbo approach.
**** I'm running 240-275 (engine temp) without either one. At least these last few days with temps ranging 70-80 degrees. I was considering the opposite, and going with an oil cooler, then if necessary love jugs. Hoping that won't be necessary though. If I can get my temps to stay closer to 200-225 regularly I'd be happy. However on my power vision, i don't see any oil temp or calculated head temp in the options.
on your fire breathing 110 and 117s, yeah... all cooling helps.
it's ET. pulling from the head temp sensor
Thanks. I was under the impression they were separate. Engine temp is enough for me anyway. I just need something to watch as I add cooling components to see which ones make the most difference. Once I finally do these mods I'll post a thread.
**** I'm running 240-275 (engine temp) without either one. At least these last few days with temps ranging 70-80 degrees. I was considering the opposite, and going with an oil cooler, then if necessary love jugs. Hoping that won't be necessary though. If I can get my temps to stay closer to 200-225 regularly I'd be happy. However on my power vision, i don't see any oil temp or calculated head temp in the options.
There is no oil temp option in the PV. There is an option to display ET and HT. They are probably both based off of the temp sensor in the front head. I'm guessing the HT reading is an actual reading off of the sensor and the ET reading is some sort of algorithm or derived figure based on the HT reading.
If you go to the gauges icon in your PV, there is a list of channels that you can display. HT is one of them, in case you want to view them both.
I see about the same ET's that you are seeing when I am in the city.
**** I'm running 240-275 (engine temp) without either one. At least these last few days with temps ranging 70-80 degrees. I was considering the opposite, and going with an oil cooler, then if necessary love jugs. Hoping that won't be necessary though. If I can get my temps to stay closer to 200-225 regularly I'd be happy. However on my power vision, i don't see any oil temp or calculated head temp in the options.
Hey Nick - Please consider this. When riding down the highway the flow of air keeps your air cooled engine cool. This is as it should be and there is rarely need for any cooling device.
It's when you are in slow conditions that the engine is starved for that cooling air and it gets progressively hotter
. Make this easy test. Idle your motorcycle and see how effective the oil or water cooler is as the heat builds and builds. It won't take much to see or feel that your engine is getting little or no help in it's need to stay cool.
Do the same test with Love Jugs Cool-Master or Mighty-Mites and your engine will not overheat because it's getting that refreshing air it needs. The only measuring equipment you'll need is your thighs feeling the burn unless you have your Love Jugs on.
Look, when your engine's heat is building it needs air to cool it. Love Jugs patented cooling systems provide their cooling magic 24/7. Nothing else does that - NOTHING. Buy 'e, try 'em and you will immediately see why so many riders LOVE their Love Jugs. - Respectfully, Steve
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