New rebuild borescope has me shook
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So this is a hillside 98" build 99 fxdx I've got about 300 miles on the build. Bike seems to be running good I've rode it right haven't broke 4000 rpm heat cycled it on initial start took out the plugs to see the color today and they were a light color not real white or real tan just a light beige. Doesn't blow any smoke. But I decided while plugs are out throw borescope in cylinders. To my surprise there's quite a bit of carbon already with each cylinder having a small clean circle with no carbon but that's not the most worrying part. I'm highly concerned with the black streaks on the sides of cylinders both these things exist in both cylinders. I've done everything by the book as far as assembly and break in used assembly lube pistons are facing correct way ect. Is this as big of a problem as it looks? Or am I freaking out before the engine is even broke in? I ran it on the high way last night for the first night didn't exceed 4000 ran thru the gears correctly this is my first build
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I think you're worrying over nothing. Hard to see from the pics but it doesn't appear to actually be scored cylinder walls, if that were the case I would say worry. As far as the carbon goes, you're gonna get it from anything that burns whether it's a bbq or a motor, but if you're getting excessive carbon, you may want to look at your time. Rich fuel mixture will cause excessive carbon but I'd still say to continue your break in, enjoy the build, and pat yourself on the back for being a "good boy" and breaking it in correctly, rather than just nailing it as others do.
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That scoring, this early on, isn't good. What oil are you using to break-in? Change it out after the first 10 hours. Kinda working your engine hard with 4,000 rpm, right away. Not something recommended for engine longevity.
Freaked out the same way on my first rodeo... give it time
https://www.hdforums.com/forum/engin...-break-in.html
considering hillside lives in the engine technical forum. Ask them. They may make you feel better.
https://www.hdforums.com/forum/engin...-break-in.html
considering hillside lives in the engine technical forum. Ask them. They may make you feel better.
Last edited by cvaria; Sep 15, 2017 at 03:09 PM.
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True yeah yanno I just spent so much time on this thing I mean it was a pile when I bought it rebuilt trans engine performance machine brakes all around wheels suspension paint everything. The carbon has actually been there since the first week when I was playing around with jets and one of my pushrods need another couple flats because of the decked heads. So I think maybe the clean circle is ignition burning it off now that it's actually getting ridden. Once I had completed the engine and got it running right I went on a 20 mile ride and started having trans issues pulled that apart and had needle bearings in pieces 5 gear was gone mainshaft was wobbly. I can't believe it was actually was limping home. So after it's initial 20 miles it sat for a couple weeks while waiting on trans parts those black lines weren't there but the carbon was. Most of the 300 miles has been done in the last 2 weeks. I care about this thing more than any other bike or vehicle I've had in my life including my 17 dresser because I literally have blood in the crankcase lol
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no I mean I never have exceeded 4000 that's only occasionally and shifted immediately it spends most its time between at various rpms between 25 and 35. Trying to not stay at one very often.
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Freaked out the same way on my first rodeo... give it time
https://www.hdforums.com/forum/engin...-break-in.html
considering hillside lives in the engine technical forum. Ask them. They may make you feel better.
https://www.hdforums.com/forum/engin...-break-in.html
considering hillside lives in the engine technical forum. Ask them. They may make you feel better.
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I think you're worrying over nothing. Hard to see from the pics but it doesn't appear to actually be scored cylinder walls, if that were the case I would say worry. As far as the carbon goes, you're gonna get it from anything that burns whether it's a bbq or a motor, but if you're getting excessive carbon, you may want to look at your time. Rich fuel mixture will cause excessive carbon but I'd still say to continue your break in, enjoy the build, and pat yourself on the back for being a "good boy" and breaking it in correctly, rather than just nailing it as others do.