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Old Mar 26, 2020 | 09:13 PM
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I have a 2013 Super Glide (96) with a DK 636 intake, MagnaFlow F-Bomb 2-into-1, and Accel On-Plug coils. Engine internals stock. Electronics stock (although probably a tuner at some point).

I'm looking for recommendations on injector flow rate and what brand to buy. When I bought the bike a few years ago, the stock injectors were bad, so I replaced them with 5.4gm/sec injectors from Twin Tec. The bike sat again while paint and other work was done and the injectors are gummed up again. I might try to resurrect them, but I'm looking for feedback about weight/brand before attempting that.

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What's the problem using stock injectors?
 
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What's the problem using stock injectors?
 
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Old Mar 27, 2020 | 03:54 PM
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Originally Posted by chrison600
Hi all,

I have a 2013 Super Glide (96) with a DK 636 intake, MagnaFlow F-Bomb 2-into-1, and Accel On-Plug coils. Engine internals stock. Electronics stock (although probably a tuner at some point).

I'm looking for recommendations on injector flow rate and what brand to buy. When I bought the bike a few years ago, the stock injectors were bad, so I replaced them with 5.4gm/sec injectors from Twin Tec. The bike sat again while paint and other work was done and the injectors are gummed up again. I might try to resurrect them, but I'm looking for feedback about weight/brand before attempting that.

Thoughts?

Chris
5.4 sounds like a high flow without a larger bore intake. I'd stay below 4.6 unless you have a tuner that can adjust for the additional flow.
 
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Old Mar 27, 2020 | 04:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Jay Guild
5.4 sounds like a high flow without a larger bore intake. I'd stay below 4.6 unless you have a tuner that can adjust for the additional flow.
You mean a larger bore throttle body? The intake should flow more air than the original, but the throttle body is still OE.
 
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Old Mar 27, 2020 | 07:23 PM
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Originally Posted by chrison600
You mean a larger bore throttle body? The intake should flow more air than the original, but the throttle body is still OE.
You have a stock motor besides a few upgrades. You installed a less restrictive air cleaner assembly. You go with larger injectors with more head, bigger cam, larger TB, etc., when the stock injectors cannot keep up with the fuel requirements of the motor. You currently are not at that point with the specs of your bike you have given.

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What TC said. Higher flow injectors give too rich a mixture with stock ECM, throttle body, and narrow band sensors. Even if you adjust the tune and add wide band sensors the higher fuel flow injectors will just not pulse as long without a larger bore throttle body to increase the mixture flow as well. Even then some head work may be needed to allow the flow to enter the combustion chamber.
 

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I see. What about the suspicion that the factory installs lower flow rate injectors to meet emissions requirements? Any influence there?

I still have the OE injectors, but suspect that one is dead. I'll try energizing them and see if they actuate.
 
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Originally Posted by chrison600
I see. What about the suspicion that the factory installs lower flow rate injectors to meet emissions requirements? Any influence there?

I still have the OE injectors, but suspect that one is dead. I'll try energizing them and see if they actuate.
The factory leans the tune by way of the time the injector "stays on". While there are many tuners out there, TTS with a full dyno tune by a good tuner is very hard to beat. The tuner can richen up the mixture (which the factory injectors can handle) by lengthening the time the injector stays on. The need for larger injectors comes in when the stock injector cannot deliver enough fuel within that time when the motor requires more fuel.

Hope that is clear as mud.

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You have at least 2/3 of a stage 1 since you're not sure if there is/has been a tuner on the bike. Stage 1 setups will perform very well with stock injectors. Before you start second guessing the factory engineering you should probably get a good tuner and go from there. Make sure you're getting as much as possible with your mods, and I have a feeling you'll get more power that way rather than experimenting.
 
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