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Old Mar 9, 2022 | 08:34 AM
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Do you want the Tube ID or the Check Valve ID?
Fork tube not check valve. I found the emulator OD which should be close but it's really best to know what the diameter of hole itself.

BTW HD 41mm tube are really 41.28mm OD which makes them closer to 1 5/8 inches than 41mm.. ID is 33 mm..

The surface area of a cross-section of the tube and distance traveled determines the volume through the emulator. (I believe)
 
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Old Mar 9, 2022 | 09:01 AM
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Fork tube ID = 44.50mm
 
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Old Mar 9, 2022 | 09:11 AM
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So the fork tube is only 2.25 mm thick? (49-44.5)/2 = 2.25
 
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Old Mar 9, 2022 | 09:19 AM
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A little less ... OD is ~48.86mm
 
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Old Mar 9, 2022 | 09:22 AM
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Originally Posted by Max Headflow
The surface area of a cross-section of the tube and distance traveled determines the volume through the emulator. (I believe)
Or, is it the surface area of a cross-section of the tube and the volume through the emulator that determines the distance traveled?
 
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Old Mar 9, 2022 | 09:24 AM
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Or the 3rd?


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Old Mar 9, 2022 | 10:08 AM
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Originally Posted by John CC
Or, is it the surface area of a cross-section of the tube and the volume through the emulator that determines the distance traveled?
Could be..

Lets do some numbers.. (no not the ones that get you high but save them for later )

Most of the development for the HD forks that I know of was done to 41mm tubes.

So HD 41 41.28 od 33 id
HD 49 48.86 od 44.5 id.

^2 = Squared

Surface area of the tube will be pi (R_od)^2 - pi(R_id)^2

For the 41 we get 483 square mm or 4.83 sq centimeter.

For the 49 we get 320 square mm or 3.20 sq centimeter.

This means that for each cm of travel the 41 pushes 4.83 ccs of oil through the emulator and the 49 pushes only 3.20 cc..

It seems to me that 2/3 the holes the same size (5/16) should work for the bigger forks. You will need to more spring force on the top hat.

One thing I don't understand is that RT ships the FEGV-4901 with 4 holes in the top hat. I'd think that the number should be less as less fluid per cm of travel.



 
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Old Mar 9, 2022 | 10:27 AM
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Unless I missed something, you're referring to just the tube wall as doing the "Pushing"? ... but it wouldn't be just that pushing the oil
 
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Old Mar 9, 2022 | 10:41 AM
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Originally Posted by multihdrdr
Unless I missed something, you're referring to just the tube wall as doing the "Pushing"? ... but it wouldn't be just that pushing the oil

OK, what else?

Add:

Think about it. You service the fork. With spring out you fill to certain level. As you move the tube up and down, what makes the level rise in the tube referenced to the lower? The surface area of the cross-section of the tube is what I see.
 

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Old Mar 9, 2022 | 10:53 AM
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Using the pic posted above for a reference ...

Well at the very least, this width ... (and not even talking about yet how much the sealing ring against the damper tube seals)





Btw, I can provide pics of Exact parts in question later
 
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