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Old Jan 10, 2022 | 11:11 PM
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What is the caliper piston size of a late model Dyna/Softail compared to the pre-Brembo and Brembo Touring calipers?
 
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Old Jan 11, 2022 | 09:34 PM
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WHY? It does not matter what size the caliper pistons are. Ya can't bore it out and get oversized pistons cause nobody makes them. It HOW MANY PISTONS in the caliper that count. Needing more stopping power???? Get better BRAKE PADS and ditch the OEM crap.
A little FYI - Pre Brembo Touring calipers were also used on the Dyna & Softail.
 
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Old Jan 12, 2022 | 07:22 AM
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WHY? It does not matter what size the caliper pistons are. Ya can't bore it out and get oversized pistons cause nobody makes them. It HOW MANY PISTONS in the caliper that count. Needing more stopping power???? Get better BRAKE PADS and ditch the OEM crap.
A little FYI - Pre Brembo Touring calipers were also used on the Dyna & Softail.
I'm really trying not to ive you an answer that I will get banned from this forum... I simply want to know that info out of plain curiosity after a late night rabbit hole reading about braking systems and you instead of sticking with my question went out and give an oppinion that has nothing to do with the info that I'm asking about.

If anyone else knows this info please share.
 
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Old Jan 12, 2022 | 08:48 PM
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Sorry, but I was only attempting to be of some help. Didn't quite understand the question and gave a response to give you information. Obviously, that was the wrong thing to do since it's gotten ya all riled up. So here's a FOOLPROOF METHOD to get the correct information you are seeking. Remove the front (easier than the rear) caliper and measure it. THEN stick it up yea ***. Ya know, I really don't give a damn if ya wanna tell me off. In parting, all I can say is Bye, Bye and F++k oFF.
 
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Old Jan 12, 2022 | 08:59 PM
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Originally Posted by TexasScooterTrash
WHY? It does not matter what size the caliper pistons are. Ya can't bore it out and get oversized pistons cause nobody makes them. It HOW MANY PISTONS in the caliper that count. Needing more stopping power???? Get better BRAKE PADS and ditch the OEM crap.
A little FYI - Pre Brembo Touring calipers were also used on the Dyna & Softail.
It mean everything if you want to mess with the design. Everyone mentions how the brembos seen to be better than the Kelsey/Hayes, They are not really that much different. They changed the master to caliper piston ratio to advantage slightly higher caliper / master piston ratio and made the disc a few mm larger in diameter. It means that you simply need need to apply less pressure to the lever. Both brakes work fine and you have minimal flex in either system. I suspect that HD did this for the Ultra (EG or RG) crowd. On a RK or dyna the KH brakes work great.

I don't find any problems is someone wants to change the lever to brake pad force ratio..
 
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Originally Posted by TexasScooterTrash
WHY? It does not matter what size the caliper pistons are. Ya can't bore it out and get oversized pistons cause nobody makes them. It HOW MANY PISTONS in the caliper that count. Needing more stopping power???? Get better BRAKE PADS and ditch the OEM crap.
A little FYI - Pre Brembo Touring calipers were also used on the Dyna & Softail.
For anyone else reading this (in the future perhaps), the above is a terrible answer. Not only does it rather arrogantly dismiss the OP's question as unimportant, it is mostly WRONG. It is correct in that no-one makes oversize caliper pistons, but WRONG that the diameter is unimportant. The truth is that the diameter (and yes, the number of pistons too as it is the total area that defines the hydraulic advantage) is CRUCIAL to the operation of the brakes and knowing the diameter of all the pistons/bores involved can allow you to understand and figure out if any improvements can be made to suit yourself - as they often can.

Simply swapping components based on e.g. looks, or what works (in isolation) on other bikes and worst of all, the name of the manufacturer is a recipe for making your brakes worse. If you don't understand how they work, maybe you shouldn't be messing with your brakes in the first place, but if truly ignorant about all this, DEFINITELY don't give out incorrect advice on a public forum.

I am also searching for this information, i.e. the diameters of the pistons/bores in the main caliper types H-D have used. From single piston sliding caliper type on '80s/'90s models, to the 4 piston Nissins on I think mainly later Touring models and the latest Brembos. I cannot find this information anywhere, so if anyone can help, it would be much appreciated, certainly by me and probably the OP as well.
 
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Old May 2, 2022 | 04:47 AM
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As i rememberd, stock front cal.was 40mm x4 . I changed to 30 mm x6 pistons so the combined area of pistons were smaller, I preferd to use a smaller mc. (1/2")
 
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Originally Posted by eriksweden
As i rememberd, stock front cal.was 40mm x4 . I changed to 30 mm x6 pistons so the combined area of pistons were smaller, I preferd to use a smaller mc. (1/2")
Which caliper is that?

Are you sure about size? Seems unlikely to me as 40mm would be extremely large for a 2 piston sliding or 4 piston fixed caliper design. Never come across such large pistons in that configuration.

I have since found that the 4 piston Brembos are 4 x 32mm. Prior to that they were 4 piston Nissins and Hayes even before that and I've no idea who makes the single piston caliper used on Evo models, nor its piston dia. - but I can measure that.

So piston dia. for pre Brembo 4 piston calipers is still unknown.

Why do manufacturers try to hide this information. It's not secret as anyone could measure it if they really needed to for business purposes. Just makes life difficult for us customers/users. Drives me nuts.
 
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Just measured the piston in the single piston caliper on my FXLR Evo '87. It is 1.5".

So still need the piston ODs for the non Brembo 4 pot calipers. I have none of those to measure.
 
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