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Old Oct 26, 2023 | 10:40 AM
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Hey guys considering a 2004 Wide Glide in excellent condition. Got him talked into $5,200. Its only got 6k on the clock.




w/ 6k on the clock. Whatcha think a fair value is?
 
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Old Oct 26, 2023 | 10:48 AM
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JD Power puts it at $4,125-5,425 plus any options (low and average retail). I'd consider it only having 6k miles as putting at the low end of that range, the TC88s are known to have issues that likely have not been addressed and that motorcycle has been spent more time sitting than being ridden. Personally, I would pass and find a newer one with a 96 and a 6 speed transmission at the price you're at; there is a 2006 here that has been for sale for $6,500 for over a year and I'm virtually certain you could show up with $5,200 and buy that one.

I'm sure there will be a bunch of people who say 5 speed is fine (it is) and that their 88 is great (it's plenty), but if you can get the newer features for similar money I would hold out unless the bars/grips/other upgrades that bike has are what you would want anyway. While modifications don't really add value, they might to you, if they are things you'd do anyway that would otherwise cost you money and time.
 
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Old Oct 26, 2023 | 10:52 AM
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Rear fender has the original pin striping on it but tank and front fender do not. Might be worth asking about. Maybe bike was damaged at one point or the tins were so they were replaced or repainted. Either way, hurts the value some.
 
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JD Power puts it at $4,125-5,425 plus any options (low and average retail). I'd consider it only having 6k miles as putting at the low end of that range, the TC88s are known to have issues that likely have not been addressed and that motorcycle has been spent more time sitting than being ridden. Personally, I would pass and find a newer one with a 96 and a 6 speed transmission at the price you're at; there is a 2006 here that has been for sale for $6,500 for over a year and I'm virtually certain you could show up with $5,200 and buy that one.

I'm sure there will be a bunch of people who say 5 speed is fine (it is) and that their 88 is great (it's plenty), but if you can get the newer features for similar money I would hold out unless the bars/grips/other upgrades that bike has are what you would want anyway. While modifications don't really add value, they might to you, if they are things you'd do anyway that would otherwise cost you money and time.
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Old Oct 26, 2023 | 11:32 AM
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$5200 seems like a pretty good price.

I see lots of early 2000's wide glides with 3-5 times the miles listed for sale for $6000-8000.

For that low mileage and price, I'd be willing to bet the cam chain tensioners have never been looked at. So I would ask about that and know for sure. and plan on replacing them if they haven't been done recently or upgraded to the hydraulic tensioners.
 

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Old Oct 26, 2023 | 02:33 PM
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$5200 is a good price in my opinion.
 
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Old Oct 26, 2023 | 03:25 PM
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Relative values are always area dependent, what a bikes worth in one spot can change a good bit in another. Do your homework as what things are selling for in your search area, blue book and other national sources rarely reflect actual values.

What can be had for $4000 in corn country nowhere can be 2 grand more in large cities or on the coasts.
 
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Old Oct 26, 2023 | 03:30 PM
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I think 5-6 grand is fai rfor a big v twin with that mileage any less gets into XL EVO Sportster prices but that may vary in your area also. Id cruise the local bikes for sle see whats going for what etc.
 
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Old Oct 26, 2023 | 06:23 PM
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Per Black Book Powersports:

Year: 2004
Make: Harley-Davidson
Model: FXDWGI Dyna Wide Glide
Model Type: Cruiser
Displacement: 1450
Cylinders: 2
VIN: 1HD1GPW14
Finance Advance: $3,810
MSRP: $16,595
Avg Retail: $4,485
Auction Wholesale $3,700
Clean Trade: $3,565
Fair Trade: $3,085

They show "Average Retail" as $4,485. Only you can decide how much above or below average retail that bike is, and if their price is worth it to you...

Keep in mind, if not already addressed, you WILL NEED to address the spring cam tensioners.

If you have a shop do the work, it will most likely cost $1K+ depending on the method you use to address them, and the labor rate. If you do the work yourself, the cheapest method to address them (just change the spring tensioner pads to Cyco brand pads) will cost around $200-$300 in parts.

Consider that repair when determining the bike's "value".....

IMHO, based on the pics alone without a personal inspection, I would say it's a pretty good deal if the cam tensioners have been addressed. If not, I would offer $4K and tell him why...

Good luck and let us know what you decide....


PS- A few things I look at to decide if an older bike has been well cared for, look to be real nice on the pics of this bike;

1) With spoked wheels, how clean are the wheel hubs and spokes? They usually can't be quickly/easily cleaned to get a neglected bike ready for sale..

2) Is there corrosion on the ends of the cylinder/head fins, on a bike with a blacked out engine? That shows how well the bike was cleaned and/or stored when not used.

3) How much corrosion is there on the fork lowers, if they are OEM? Almost impossible to keep them pristine if the bike is ridden, but look for the amount of corrosion, and compare it to the claimed mileage. A low mileage bike that looks clean, but has heavily corroded OEM fork lowers, is a red flag to me... It suggests it could be a pig with lipstick...
 

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Old Oct 26, 2023 | 07:49 PM
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Talking 2000 fxdwg

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I bought my 2000 model FXDWG (carbureated) with 22, 200 miles on it. That was February of 2022. It was very clean and all original. It came with a few extra accessories that were not installed on the bike (service manual, extra seat, sissy bar with pad, original exhaust, H-D brand cover, new front tire, tube, and rim band). I couldn't pass it up at $5000. The first thing I did when I got it home was check the "Cam Chain Tensioner Shoes".
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2000 WideGlide - carbureted

2000 FXDWG @ Lake Lavon.


Cam chain Tensioner Shoes @ 22,020 miles.
 
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