o2 sensers 2006 dyna
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RE: o2 sensers 2006 dyna
ORIGINAL: Twohulabears
Is this true? I thought that was only on the Touring bikes? Or is an o2 sensor the same as a catalytic converter?
on the '06 models the exhaust contain catalytic converters
The 06 cartridge expands the parameters of the ECM, allowing the efi system to better compensate for the increased air flow. Some individuals find that it compensates enough, and others still detect a lean condition at certain RPM ranges. If you go with just slip ons, and leave the stock A/C, get the cartridge, I am near positive you will be fine. I have the slip ons and the the AC, and the cartredge, and the bike runs fine. Plugs look fine as well, however plugs would not look bad if the lean condition was only at certain rpms.
The SERT allows you to fine tune your system even further, and I think any mod above slipons and AC would require the SERT, or DFO, or similar product. Some may choose to get the sert regardless just to have more control, but thatan option...not a requirement.
EPA....I am in california......Southern California. Supposedly the worst place to be for EPA regs. I have had no probs. Common sense...not reving your engine inside city limits may help. Going with slip ons instead of straight pipes may help...I dont know. I know that there are 1000's of bikes out here, and you would be hard pressed to find a stock exhaust. I am not to worried about it with the simple set up I have.
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From: Upstate NY / San Clemente CA
RE: o2 sensers 2006 dyna
The o2 sensers will ID the increased air flow.....butthe system (stock) cant changeitenoughto compensate. The DL will help if you just go with slipons and AC.
ORIGINAL: dynamolowrider
this has been a interresting thred iunder stand efi prety well and what all the seners do tps,map, 02, all corlate together to send the proper signals to ecm to make the motor run right but i didnt think about freeing up the the exhaust would change the temp inside the thus throwing the calebration of the o2 sen. off so what it comes down to is the only real soul. is a sret or power comander i gess ill save my money till i can do it right!
this has been a interresting thred iunder stand efi prety well and what all the seners do tps,map, 02, all corlate together to send the proper signals to ecm to make the motor run right but i didnt think about freeing up the the exhaust would change the temp inside the thus throwing the calebration of the o2 sen. off so what it comes down to is the only real soul. is a sret or power comander i gess ill save my money till i can do it right!
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RE: o2 sensers 2006 dyna
ORIGINAL: Twohulabears
Is this true? I thought that was only on the Touring bikes? Or is an o2 sensor the same as a catalytic converter?
on the '06 models the exhaust contain catalytic converters
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From: Upstate NY / San Clemente CA
RE: o2 sensers 2006 dyna
ORIGINAL: claydbal
if your mind is set on getting the download, it will help on the stock bike, bringing the a/f ratio almostinto the safe zone.remember this------the downloads also have to be epa compliant or h-d couldn't do this modification!
ORIGINAL: dynamolowrider
thanks for the info now i get it! would it hurt to install the down load first . and I know that removing the baffels is not the best for pefomance but with the down load would that be suficant for now. thanks TCSTD i thought the down load would be more exspencive
thanks for the info now i get it! would it hurt to install the down load first . and I know that removing the baffels is not the best for pefomance but with the down load would that be suficant for now. thanks TCSTD i thought the down load would be more exspencive
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thanks eveyone, i have picked up alot of good info. This week im going to get a dl,kn filtr,and as for the stock exh. ill remove the baff. with a key hole saw only the center section comes out, the mesh screen & fiberglass packing are not atatched and remaine in the pipe its stll not as loud as vanc&hines big shots but alot beter than stock then ilsave my $$$ till i can get ether a power comander or sret then go from there.
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Lets open another box.
I am going to get the new V&N Big Radius set for the 06 soon. I am planing to add a high flow air filter kit from K&N. My understanding is that with the closed loop I need only slip the O2 sensor into teh bung on the new pipes and all should be good out the door even if I could tweek it a bit.
Do I actually need ot go ahead and get the V&H EFI tuning kit or what?
Thanks!
I am going to get the new V&N Big Radius set for the 06 soon. I am planing to add a high flow air filter kit from K&N. My understanding is that with the closed loop I need only slip the O2 sensor into teh bung on the new pipes and all should be good out the door even if I could tweek it a bit.
Do I actually need ot go ahead and get the V&H EFI tuning kit or what?
Thanks!
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From: Upstate NY / San Clemente CA
RE: o2 sensers 2006 dyna
Noooooooo. The closed loop does adjust, but not enough for the stage one upgrade. The Factory D/L is ok for the slip ons, but the more radical V&H pipe.....I would get the V&H fuel pak, or a SERT. The D/L is still a tad on the lean side with just slip ons. If you do those pipe and an A/C you are gonna be WAY LEAN.
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That is correct, I've got a '06 Street Bob with the o2 sensors. No exhaust work has been done yet (still waiting to show up), however I installed the SE stage 1 air filter. After installing this, I noticed that if you rev the throttle real quick sometimes you'll get a lean backfire through the throttle body, this is without a programmer or HD download.
As previously stated, the system can correct itself to a degree but the difference between the stock air filter assembly and the stage 1SE is so much that it doesn't compensate that much. If you install the exhaust it'll be that much worse, so a programmer is really mandatory.
As previously stated, the system can correct itself to a degree but the difference between the stock air filter assembly and the stage 1SE is so much that it doesn't compensate that much. If you install the exhaust it'll be that much worse, so a programmer is really mandatory.