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Old Sep 13, 2008 | 09:57 PM
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27 torx bit is the ticket but i do have thor or craftsman i can't remember but its a good brand no probs
 
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Old Sep 13, 2008 | 10:38 PM
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they are a pain sometimes, even with the right size bit. I've replaced a bunch of them with chrome allen head bolts (especially on the derby cover) from Ace Hardware. Makes the job a whole lot easier.



 
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Old Sep 14, 2008 | 07:32 AM
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Torx is the industry standard fastener when it comes to automated assembly line equipment. Much easier to get an auto-loading screw gun to work smoothly.

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Old Sep 14, 2008 | 07:41 AM
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Originally Posted by hogdoctor
Torx is the industry standard fastener when it comes to automated assembly line equipment. Much easier to get an auto-loading screw gun to work smoothly.

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additionally, if my memory serves me right, a TX head can bear higher torque load then an Allen.

the small derby cover screws will be just fine replaced to Allen heads, but the big pinch bolts on the trees should remain Torx.
 
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Old Sep 14, 2008 | 08:04 AM
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And hopefully the ones that were replaced with allen were of the same material, stress rating etc....
 
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Old Sep 14, 2008 | 08:37 AM
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When I bought my luggage rack, backrest and new seat I got the allen wrenchs out. Then I had to go back in for a phillips screwdriver, then I had to go back into the house and get my torx bits. There really is no reason to have so many different types of fasteners for one small area like that. I was surprised I didn't find anything held together with wood screws.
Allens would of been sufficient imo.
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Old Sep 14, 2008 | 11:50 AM
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When I was younger a spent about 8 year making a living as a cage mechanic. In past experiences I've had to put torx bits on a 1/2'' impact gun to break them loose before. Never any problems doing that short of snapping a torx bit or two. On the flip side after taking a 1/2'' air wrench to an allen head bolt I've usually had to break out the fire wrench next. Some of this would depend on how shallow or deep the socket was on the allen head fastener.

Most of the time when I am working on something my wrenches are air powered. I prefer the torx simply because i've had better luck with them not stripping.
 
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Old Sep 14, 2008 | 12:13 PM
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It would have been nice had they stuck with one or the other. I guess it's not that big a deal though. I just bought a set of both.
 
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Yes, torx suck. When I was doing my front signal relocate, one of the 4 torx pinch bolts stripped out. Meaning the wrench had nothing to grab. I hardly put any muscle into and wham-o...it was toasted. I think as time goes on, I'll swap out for good quality allen bolts.
 
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Old Sep 14, 2008 | 12:30 PM
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Torx don't strip, if you use the wright bit. Especially a 27, vs. 25 or 30. I have seen a lot of guys that didn't realize their was a 27 bit and have all sorts of trouble.
I was a mechanic before and never had as much trouble with torx as I did with allens, many with allens stripping. A torx can handle a lot more torque versus an allen.
 
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