True-Track: What the hell?
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Road Warrior
Joined: Dec 2008
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From: Upstate, SC
The 09 FXDC that I ordered should be here in a few weeks and have been somewhat confused about the instability issue in this thread. Does the wobble or what "it" is occur at reasonable speeds, say less than 50 mph, and riding conservatively? Has anyone experienced it under those conditions or only at hard or aggressive riding? I kept hearing from Dyna riders how comfortable and smooth the ride it which doesn't jive with the instability comments. Now I am a little perplexed. If those who have TT installed say how much a difference it makes, this indicates that the ride without TT is not has smooth as thought.
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From: the 50s & the 60s
hawk, this unit doesn't, and I don't think any of them do.
lucky and phat,
I called Alloy Art and spoke with Robbie for 20 30 minutes.
He is Alloy Art. Sweeps the floor, design, answers tech questions patiently and intelligently.
He sent the pix to me at my request.
I believe he said price was 400.
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man that alloy art sure looks cool...
only problem i have with it is the bolts go in the oil pan.....
will have to study on that awhile...
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it does look like a nicely engineered piece....
too bad i already ordered mine....i ordered the sputhe model.....
the alloy art looks easier to install unless it one of those bolts on the oil pan i can't get to....
i can if i take the thunderheader and support off..........
man that alloy art sure looks cool...
only problem i have with it is the bolts go in the oil pan.....
will have to study on that awhile...
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it does look like a nicely engineered piece....
too bad i already ordered mine....i ordered the sputhe model.....
the alloy art looks easier to install unless it one of those bolts on the oil pan i can't get to....
i can if i take the thunderheader and support off..........
0low, I agree with your nicely engineered statement.
Robbie gave me a lot of insight into that part,
as well as the install procedure.
As to bolts in the oil pan,
no, the bolts go into the transmission case.
This style has been in service on the heavy baggers for quite a while.
There are four or five manufacturers making the bagger component,
and they all use this same design concept.
I haven't heard any reports on failure, bolts or otherwise.
I said I was considering this one,
but now that I look at it closer,
it appears that the placement will interfere with my J and S jack.
I lift the machine on a regular basis, and the JnS is too easy to use to get rid of it.
Now I'm down to the Sputhe or the True Track.
I ride real hard all the time,
and do not have any life threatening issues with handling,
but I do believe the higher speed curvies could be a bit better.
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Intermediate
Joined: Jul 2008
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Tech23,
The CBR929-954RR and all Ducati Superbikes mount the swingarm to the transmission/engine case. This was done to keep the drivetrain in alignment. The FXR chassis was good but it had many problems also. I broke many belts on the 5 FXR's I've had because of isolator flex, swingarm flex, primary case flex, and swingarm pivot bolt flex. The FXR chassis is very similar to the FL touring chassis and they had some problems up until the redesign.
The CBR929-954RR and all Ducati Superbikes mount the swingarm to the transmission/engine case. This was done to keep the drivetrain in alignment. The FXR chassis was good but it had many problems also. I broke many belts on the 5 FXR's I've had because of isolator flex, swingarm flex, primary case flex, and swingarm pivot bolt flex. The FXR chassis is very similar to the FL touring chassis and they had some problems up until the redesign.
Road Master
Joined: Sep 2008
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From: Milan,Tennessee
yeah ..i didnt think about my j&s jack...that would be hard lifting..wonder if it would clear the lift...oh well...i ordered the sputhe model last week.waiting on it to be delivered...........
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Maybe I'm missing something... but is there a front stabilizer too?
Tourer
Joined: Apr 2006
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From: Arizona
I purchased a Sputhe Posi-Trac thru CapDunn.
https://www.hdforums.com/forum/dyna-...ml#post4043197
I had a money order all ready to send to Sputhe when I decided to check with Cap to see if he could still get the cheaper group buy deal with Sputhe. Sure enough he could & so he saved me $55. Should have it next week.
I personally don't care for True Trac's advertising scare tactics which is why I planned to get the Sputhe, not to mention Sputhe has been involved in the H-D industry for years developing high performance H-D parts. They design & manufacture what they sell, as a machinist/engineer I can appreciate that.
Cap Dunn still has a couple of Sputhe Posi-Tracs if anyone is interested. You'll save a few $$ in the process.
Sam, no disrespect, but from what I've seen of a lot of H-D riders they don't tend to push their bikes all that hard, I do. I like taking the freeway interchanges at 80 mph or more when possible or 130+ on straightaways when safe to do so. I like to push myself & my machine & that is the area where I begin to experience the wobble or oscillation in the rear end.
https://www.hdforums.com/forum/dyna-...ml#post4043197
I had a money order all ready to send to Sputhe when I decided to check with Cap to see if he could still get the cheaper group buy deal with Sputhe. Sure enough he could & so he saved me $55. Should have it next week.
I personally don't care for True Trac's advertising scare tactics which is why I planned to get the Sputhe, not to mention Sputhe has been involved in the H-D industry for years developing high performance H-D parts. They design & manufacture what they sell, as a machinist/engineer I can appreciate that.
Cap Dunn still has a couple of Sputhe Posi-Tracs if anyone is interested. You'll save a few $$ in the process.
Sam, no disrespect, but from what I've seen of a lot of H-D riders they don't tend to push their bikes all that hard, I do. I like taking the freeway interchanges at 80 mph or more when possible or 130+ on straightaways when safe to do so. I like to push myself & my machine & that is the area where I begin to experience the wobble or oscillation in the rear end.
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translation: EVERYONE's opinion here re: the difference the component makes is bull****.
eitherway, if one notices the wiggle, get the fix, if you don't, don't.
it"s that simple.
otherwise, don't try and discount real experience and feedback of real motorcyclists with the before/after of this unit.
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From: Bedford UK
Some of us bought these things a long while ago, before they started advertising here! The 'so called' problem is real enough for there to be around a dozen firms making stabilizer kits, especially for touring models. Some of us are delighted with the overall improvements these kits provide.
Last edited by grbrown; Mar 2, 2009 at 03:51 PM. Reason: Grammar!