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I leave it in whatever gear I'm riding in as I'm coming to a stop. When I feel the engine start to "protest" I pull the clutch in and start downshifting without letting the clutch out in between gears, using the brakes to stop. As I come to a stop I'm downshifting into 1st.
The reason I was taught to downshift when stopping when I was a teenager driving a stick shift was this.....you DON'T always stop. Say you are slowing down and then the light changes and traffic begins to move....by down shifting, you are ready to resume travel with traffic. If you are in the wrong gear, you have to "find" the right one and well, on a bike, that delay can get you run over.
One thing i dont do is downshift from 2nd to 1st when stopping i always go down all the gears and then i go from 2nd to N and chill at the light! By the time you would hit 1st youd be almost stopped already
Sitting at a light in neutral is a BAD thing....imagine looking in your mirrors to see that cell phone talking, lipstick applying, wrangle the kids fat lady who has yet to realize you are there and NOT being able to dump the clutch and get at least beside the car in front of you....
Last time I checked, the MOCO does not recommend downshifting to slow the bike and I have never done it as the stress on the tranny and engine is not engineered in to them.
Last time I checked, the MOCO does not recommend downshifting to slow the bike and I have never done it as the stress on the tranny and engine is not engineered in to them.
I'm sure the MoCo didn't recommend that big bore kit either but that didn't stop you.
I've been riding since 91. I've always used downshifting as a means to slow whatever bike I owned at the time. I NEVER had an issue with the motor, tranny, clutches.
What is cheaper to replace,Brake pads OR Clutch and trans?
The brakes are... but... if you don't use the brakes then they don't wear out either and since you only seem to be worried about saving money how about just don't use the brakes from now on? Same for the tires. Better quit riding. And gas? Don't even start the bike up. Might as well sell it.
Lol....well the question was "whats the proper way to down shift?"
Can one possibly glean a sure answer from these posts..... not likely. But thats the good thing about these forums. Lot's of good advice and opinions for you to ponder, and learn from.
From what anyone could gather, it depends on road conditions, your preference, your technical knowledge of the inner workings of a combustible engine/transmission and the proper gear to speed ratios, how much time you have, your experience level, and whether or not you give a crap about the way you stop as long as you don't smash into the object in front of you....
One of my favorite ways to stop is to jam the rear brake...slide about half sideways up to the folks at the corner and as soon as that blue rubber smoke blows past my face I turn with a serious look on my face and say... "****** A"
I think I just "snorked" when I read your post. Now, that's funny!!!!!
Sitting at a light in neutral is a BAD thing....imagine looking in your mirrors to see that cell phone talking, lipstick applying, wrangle the kids fat lady who has yet to realize you are there and NOT being able to dump the clutch and get at least beside the car in front of you....
What state are you in, REBiker? In Cali, we can split lanes, so I either pull to the front of the line, or if someone is riding the lane lines, I at least get in between vehicles. This way I have at least some protection.
What state are you in, REBiker? In Cali, we can split lanes, so I either pull to the front of the line, or if someone is riding the lane lines, I at least get in between vehicles. This way I have at least some protection.
Ah ha!! Another good reason for leagalizing lane splitting....
All these posts and everyone has failed to mention..."driveline decompression"....After all the accelleration (especially with the big bore bikes exerting even more torque) ever now and then you have to compress the driveline back together to remove the slack from having been stretched...This also allows more oil flow on the contact surface of the moving parts. The only way to achieve this (aside from taking it to a shop with a driveline compressor) is to downshift with force consistent to your accellerating habits.
I recomend downshifting as outlined here for different accelleration condidions;
1. Normal starts when nobody is watching...Downshift every other gear at low range RPM's.
2. Quick take-offs when you want to get somewhere...Downshift all gears at mid range RPM's with slight rev's between shifts.
3. Rapid launches with full throttle (when hot chicks are within earshot)...Downshift all gears at High RPM's with high rev's between shifts.
This seems to have worked with me for many years with no excessive wear to drivetrain and/or especially brakes.
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