inner primary... what a mess!
man! DO THIS MOD! may have tossed some stones in our path as we did it, but it is done... today i tore the bike down and powdered the hell out of it... went gold... not what i was hoping for! ha ha ha so it is all getting redone, ill post a pic tomorrow in the sun, we are all going riding,
Ride report:
my primary is quite! sounds smooooooth, used amsoil tranny fluid, i got from chad and i have to say i am very happy with it so far! VERY HAPPY.
the Barnett clutch spring, REALLY does stiffen up the clutch but FK me does this sucker grab now! I LOVE THE CLUTCH SPRING... the Anderson pulley... so far, LOVE this sucker too! i have not got on the highway yet, just got the bike back together a few hours ago and went for a 20 mile rip... but man from light to light, this pulley wakes up your launches like no other! i dig it!... ok, ill post pics tomorrow... these fools will be here at 830am ready to roll out!
Ride report:
my primary is quite! sounds smooooooth, used amsoil tranny fluid, i got from chad and i have to say i am very happy with it so far! VERY HAPPY.
the Barnett clutch spring, REALLY does stiffen up the clutch but FK me does this sucker grab now! I LOVE THE CLUTCH SPRING... the Anderson pulley... so far, LOVE this sucker too! i have not got on the highway yet, just got the bike back together a few hours ago and went for a 20 mile rip... but man from light to light, this pulley wakes up your launches like no other! i dig it!... ok, ill post pics tomorrow... these fools will be here at 830am ready to roll out!
Tourer
Joined: Dec 2008
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From: texas
Thanks for the info. Will be doing mine real soon. I hope this will be the final fix on this IPB problem.
Road Warrior
Joined: Apr 2008
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From: Aurora, IL
Joe and I went for a ride today. His primary is good, no noise, no leaks! We went on the 7th memorial Dorene Knapp ovarian cancer ride in honor of Joe's late Aunt. It was a Great day, great weather, great ride!
Joe even posed for a picture at the bike show!
Oh, hey Joe.....MAN DOWN!!
Joe even posed for a picture at the bike show!
Oh, hey Joe.....MAN DOWN!!
Road Master
Joined: Aug 2008
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From: Grapevine Texas
More or less, yes.
Most bearings you buy are a 1 piece unit, the outer which is the bearing and the part the bearing will ride on, is called the race. This configuration harley uses, is not a one piece bearing/race, the bearing portion installs in the inner primary cover, the race portion rides on the mainshaft, so when the inner primary cover is installed, the bearing is rolling on the race portion. You don't necessarily bolt it on, you have to press the old bearing out of the primary cover and press in a new one (several ways to do that), and then pull the old race off with either harleys tool or a bearing/gear puller/claw puller, throw in trash because baker is a one piece bearing/race,
Make sense???
Road Warrior
Joined: Apr 2008
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From: Aurora, IL
Its a direct replacement of the factory bearing. The factory bearing is a two peice bearing. It has the outer race and the bearings pressed in the inner primary housing. The inner race is pressed on the transmission input shaft. When you do the baker bearing upgrade/replacement. You have to remove the bearing race from the input shaft. The race is one of the big problems on these bikes, it tends to "walk" in towards the transmission. The baker is a one piece bearing that gets pressed into the inner primary housing and slides over the inner shaft insted of being pressed on.
Cruiser
Joined: Feb 2008
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Pictures of Baker IPB
Do any of you have pictures of the install process for the Baker IPB including removal of the stock and the install of the Baker? Does it matter which way the Baker faces? Will the stealer install this bearing for me or will they insist on using the HD bearing? Thanks
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removal of the bearing was not so smoooooth, the race was inpacted (those are pictured earlier in the thread. the actual bearing was trashed! i tried a socket on it and when i popped it, the thing just shattered... leaving the outer race in there inner primary, but still had a slight lip on it , so we heated it a bit with a torch, then i tired a bigger socket, this one went directly through the bearing and got stuck in the center of the bearing... had to give it a few pops to get it out. all Chad and i could do was laugh!
at this point i popped the new bearing in the freezer, cracked another cold one, and used a long flat head screwdriver, i slowly worked around the edge of the outer race, till it just popped out... took about 10 min total from start to finish...
got the new bearing out of the freezer, while i went to get that chad had 2 torches on the area the bearing will seat, and then the new bearng just about dropped right into place... took a few pops with a big socket and it was completely seated... took a swig of my drink and continued the assembly.
at this point i popped the new bearing in the freezer, cracked another cold one, and used a long flat head screwdriver, i slowly worked around the edge of the outer race, till it just popped out... took about 10 min total from start to finish...
got the new bearing out of the freezer, while i went to get that chad had 2 torches on the area the bearing will seat, and then the new bearng just about dropped right into place... took a few pops with a big socket and it was completely seated... took a swig of my drink and continued the assembly.
Cruiser
Joined: Feb 2008
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Luckily the stock bearing and outer race are in pretty good shape ... I've never pulled or installed a bearing in anything in my life, so I'm confused about a couple of things. The new baker bearing has a black rubber seal, but there are no directions with this thing, so where does it go? I'm assuming the stock bearing has a seal of some sort on it ... do I need to pull that and then remove a retaining ring before I pop it out of the IP? I know these might seem like silly questions to those who have done it, but I want to take it slow and now screw it up. These answers might be in the shop manual, but once again I am on the road for work, so I don't have that reference. Any help would be appreciated greatly
removal of the bearing was not so smoooooth, the race was inpacted (those are pictured earlier in the thread. the actual bearing was trashed! i tried a socket on it and when i popped it, the thing just shattered... leaving the outer race in there inner primary, but still had a slight lip on it , so we heated it a bit with a torch, then i tired a bigger socket, this one went directly through the bearing and got stuck in the center of the bearing... had to give it a few pops to get it out. all Chad and i could do was laugh!
at this point i popped the new bearing in the freezer, cracked another cold one, and used a long flat head screwdriver, i slowly worked around the edge of the outer race, till it just popped out... took about 10 min total from start to finish...
got the new bearing out of the freezer, while i went to get that chad had 2 torches on the area the bearing will seat, and then the new bearng just about dropped right into place... took a few pops with a big socket and it was completely seated... took a swig of my drink and continued the assembly.
at this point i popped the new bearing in the freezer, cracked another cold one, and used a long flat head screwdriver, i slowly worked around the edge of the outer race, till it just popped out... took about 10 min total from start to finish...
got the new bearing out of the freezer, while i went to get that chad had 2 torches on the area the bearing will seat, and then the new bearng just about dropped right into place... took a few pops with a big socket and it was completely seated... took a swig of my drink and continued the assembly.