Shock Bolt sheared again !
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If you read my previous post one side is stripped out now so i got some work to do i might have to use the Key locking system , then hopefully the studs setup will work i'm also looking to buy stock shocks ( sold mine ) but the shipping charges are crazy i'm trying to find some local , i don't trust the progressives any more , this ****ing sucks 
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The bolt thread is directly in the strut , we tried drilling it out and also torching it but it would not budge so my friend had to use a bigger drill and it did finally came out now what i have is a stripped hole , tonight he's coming back to work on it , he said we should use the grade 8 nut and bolt style he also made some kind of metal shim for the hole to keep it snug , the stud your talking about does it have a nut on each side now ? or does it just screw in and nut on the shock side ?
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No it's the frame hole we tried drilling it out and also torching it but it would not budge so my friend had to use a bigger drill and it did finally came out now what i have is a stripped hole , tonight he's coming back to work on it , he said we should use the grade 8 nut and bolt style he also made some kind of metal shim for the hole to keep it snug , the stud your talking about does it have a nut on each side now ? or does it just screw in and nut on the shock side ?
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on my 05(and your old dyna) the frame is not threaded, the stud shown above goes through the frame and is bolted to the inside. then the shock slips over the stud and an acorn nut holds it on. I guess the new style studs(08+ or whatever year they replaced the bolts) bolt into the frame unlike my version. Either way, the studs seem to work better than the bolt you had in there as the issue of broken bolts has not really been mentioned since Harley went to installing the studs. For some reason, I had it in my mind that your bike had a mount that went through the strut hole and accepted the long bolt you have. I figured when they returned to the studs, they tossed the mount and went back to a strut like I have.
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Well i might be putting a nut and bolt with some kind of shim , or i might be using this KEY LOCK some member suggested in this thread if you read his post and what he did well that's what i have to do, tapped out , etc i can't do anything till tonight when my friend gets out of work , he knows more than me , he also said a stud and a bolt is the same if their going to break there going to break it does not matter , my main thing is to go back to my stock shocks , i can't be doing this all the time , i never had any trouble untill the progressive shocks ...
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What size hole did you drill the old fastener out to? A 1/2-13 STI or Helicoil insert is 33/64 (.515) There is no reason that you can not install a heli-coil as a repair unless you drilled the hole out larger?
The Jergens insert tap drill size is .531 either is a good repair, the helicoil is probably the easiest to come by.
If you are using after marker hardware, the bolt needs to be a shouldered bolt as the O.E. one.
Heck, you could probably use a 5/8-11 helicoil and a Jergens insert if necessary, but your buying several repair kits now. $$$
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Did you follow how I described to drill and remove the broken fastener, the O.E. bolt is only steel?
What size hole did you drill the old fastener out to? A 1/2-13 STI or Helicoil insert is 33/64 (.515) There is no reason that you can not install a heli-coil as a repair unless you drilled the hole out larger?
The Jergens insert tap drill size is .531 either is a good repair, the helicoil is probably the easiest to come by.
If you are using after marker hardware, the bolt needs to be a shouldered bolt as the O.E. one.
Heck, you could probably use a 5/8-11 helicoil and a Jergens insert if necessary, but your buying several repair kits now. $$$
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What size hole did you drill the old fastener out to? A 1/2-13 STI or Helicoil insert is 33/64 (.515) There is no reason that you can not install a heli-coil as a repair unless you drilled the hole out larger?
The Jergens insert tap drill size is .531 either is a good repair, the helicoil is probably the easiest to come by.
If you are using after marker hardware, the bolt needs to be a shouldered bolt as the O.E. one.
Heck, you could probably use a 5/8-11 helicoil and a Jergens insert if necessary, but your buying several repair kits now. $$$
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on my 05(and your old dyna) the frame is not threaded, the stud shown above goes through the frame and is bolted to the inside. then the shock slips over the stud and an acorn nut holds it on. I guess the new style studs(08+ or whatever year they replaced the bolts) bolt into the frame unlike my version. Either way, the studs seem to work better than the bolt you had in there as the issue of broken bolts has not really been mentioned since Harley went to installing the studs. For some reason, I had it in my mind that your bike had a mount that went through the strut hole and accepted the long bolt you have. I figured when they returned to the studs, they tossed the mount and went back to a strut like I have.
My buddy came over with a 5 inch grade 8 nut and bolt with a metal shim made from a 38 cal bullet casing fits right in there nice and snug , i still have to wait for the spacer cup and washers from the dealer , i also i want to change the other side to grade 8 if we have problems with that removal he will drill it out with the same size he used last nite and add another shim and 5 inch bolt , normal is 4 inch we will also adjust the shocks with the tool to take some pressure off , i'm in the processes of getting some stock 12 shocks anyway maybe i will have them power coated black , all this because of a shock !!!!!
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I hesitate to say something but I will pose a question to you:
Even with a slip fit (ream out) what do you think will happen to your mounting point (shaft)? Have there ever been a motorcycle other than a twin support (Old BSA & such) that did not thread into a frame? Think about forces at work and what will happen. This will be my last post on this matter. Keep your own counsel
Even with a slip fit (ream out) what do you think will happen to your mounting point (shaft)? Have there ever been a motorcycle other than a twin support (Old BSA & such) that did not thread into a frame? Think about forces at work and what will happen. This will be my last post on this matter. Keep your own counsel
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I hesitate to say something but I will pose a question to you:
Even with a slip fit (ream out) what do you think will happen to your mounting point (shaft)? Have there ever been a motorcycle other than a twin support (Old BSA & such) that did not thread into a frame? Think about forces at work and what will happen. This will be my last post on this matter. Keep your own counsel
Even with a slip fit (ream out) what do you think will happen to your mounting point (shaft)? Have there ever been a motorcycle other than a twin support (Old BSA & such) that did not thread into a frame? Think about forces at work and what will happen. This will be my last post on this matter. Keep your own counsel
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