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Old Oct 21, 2010 | 11:38 AM
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OK...got my keys and fob stolen...got bike home by towing...still armed...don t have override code...have another key...no fob to access the code...what to do??
 
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Old Oct 21, 2010 | 11:48 AM
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Originally Posted by fdxcibrilliantsilver
OK...got my keys and fob stolen...got bike home by towing...still armed...don t have override code...have another key...no fob to access the code...what to do??
Your very first post is to ask how to override an armed security system on a bike that got 'towed' to your location?

You've got to admit... your situation sounds suspicious.

Anyway, you will need to tow/trailer the bike to the dealer, and have them reinitialize the system, and set it to recognize the new fob you will need to buy.

If you don't want to buy a new fob, and are going to get rid of the security system, you will still need to take it to the dealer to have it removed.... just replacing it in your garage will not allow the bike to run.

Yeah, towing to the dealer is a pain, but the security system is designed to prevent *exactly* what you are trying to do -- namely, starting the bike when no authorized fob is present, and no valid security code is entered.
 

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Old Oct 21, 2010 | 01:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Foxster
Twice now I have wheeled my '10 Fab Bot from garage, fired it up, ridden to work (5 miles) and only when I want to go home at the end of the day do I realise I don't have the fob with me and so can't start the bike. The fob was at home on the key rack in the hall, close enough to the drive to allow the bike to start that morning.

First time I did this I didn't know the over-ride code you can enter using the indicator switches and so was stranded. What if I had been 150 miles away at a petrol pump in the middle of nowhere?

And then if I park up the bike and, say, pop into a shop anyone can walk up and ride away the bike. I know the answer to that is to lock up the bike but if you have to do that every time then what's the point of keyless ignition?

I mean, how hard would it have been for H-D to have made the security light flash when you go out of range of the fob and then cut off the engine after another mile? Or, better still, provide the ability to turn the bloody keyless ignition off and provide a keyhole to use instead.
If mine is in my house, on the key rack, I cannot start my bike in my driveway. It has to be within a certain range. Store your key further away. I understand the concern about being in a store and someone being able to hop on your bike and go ... but again, range. I have found, if I am not within a 3second jog to my bike, it won't start. Locking the ignition is an option and even though you claim it to be a bother .... it does basically what your last statement asks for. You have a keyhole, that requires a key ....

I don't see the issue

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Unless I'm missing something, I don't see what the problem is. Just keep the FOB on the same ring as the key. Pretty simple if you ask me.
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The key of which I post is the ignition key. I, and most of us, don't have a "keyless system". You didn't indicate what you ride. Do you really not have an ignition key? Do new Harleys really not have ignition keys?

If that's the case it sure would make more people buy a security system. What a marketing ploy! And my comments was meant to explain why putting the FOB and key on the same ring wouldn't be a good idea. Anybody that doesn't even use an ignition key should not bother reading the post.

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Neighbor has a 1994 Electraglide. It has a key, to lock or unlock the ignition. If the ignition is unlocked, it can can be started by anone. No key or fob required. Basically the "ignition keyless system" is not new. The proximity fob is fairly new still .... but not the keyless ignition that can be left unlocked.

I keep my key and fob together. I usually ride in a mesh jacket ... 99.999999% of the time the key and fob are in an inside zippered pocket, so no worries. For those times I ride without my jacket ... range. Again. My jacket, nor my spare, are kept so close to the driveway that it is an issue.
 
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Old Oct 21, 2010 | 01:20 PM
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Originally Posted by fdxcibrilliantsilver
OK...got my keys and fob stolen...got bike home by towing...still armed...don t have override code...have another key...no fob to access the code...what to do??

Bring it to the dealer.
 
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Old Oct 22, 2010 | 01:06 PM
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Originally Posted by rjg883c
1. If the FOB is attached to the key while riding, it will flail around and continually bounce against the gas tank or frame. Over time this might damage the internals of the FOB.
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Silly me. I've been riding for 7,000 miles with the security fob flapping in the breeze. It really is a PITA over 90 mph. It hasn't damaged the FOB, but the paint on the frame around the ignition switch has lost its gloss.

 

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Old Oct 22, 2010 | 10:45 PM
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Originally Posted by rcaddell
Basically the "ignition keyless system" is not new. The proximity fob is fairly new still .... but not the keyless ignition that can be left unlocked.
Keyless ignition, turn signals, turn signals that self cancel, turn signals that self cancel only after leaning around a corner, dirt bikes with a single shock on the rear and a foot of rear wheel travel, shaft drive or water cooling, etc..

Things sure have changed over the years. Apparently I am getting old and need to pay closer attention to the 'new' innovations. My bad!

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Old Oct 22, 2010 | 10:54 PM
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Originally Posted by SailorDon
Silly me. I've been riding for 7,000 miles with the security fob flapping in the breeze. It really is a PITA over 90 mph. It hasn't damaged the FOB, but the paint on the frame around the ignition switch has lost its gloss.
Thanks for the info! A few years ago I read a post from someone that claimed his FOB was rendered inoperative because of hitting against the frame. I just accepted it as fact. Apparently he was wrong and I shouldn't have been concerned.

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Old Oct 23, 2010 | 11:11 AM
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A perimeter (radar) alarm that starts its warning when someone gets about 3 ft from the bike is best. Also sends a page. Fun to f**k with people walking by too.
 
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Old Oct 23, 2010 | 01:31 PM
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Originally Posted by SailorDon
Silly me. I've been riding for 7,000 miles with the security fob flapping in the breeze. It really is a PITA over 90 mph. It hasn't damaged the FOB, but the paint on the frame around the ignition switch has lost its gloss.
I had the same issue on my 08 SB. I ground the nub off of the key and it is now removable. I turn on the ignition and put the key away. When I get to my destination I put the key in and shut her down. Very simple and easy to do.
 
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Old Oct 23, 2010 | 01:39 PM
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I had experienced a similar problem with the FOB being close enough to the bike to start it in the morning and finding out that I forgot the FOB and couldn't start it when I first got this system, It only happened ONCE!

What I did to overcome it is to put the key and the FOB on the same ring so you can't leave without them but most importantly put the FOB further away from the bike so you can't start it and drive off and find you can't restart it elsewhere when you shut down because you don't have the FOB with you.
Doing this will also not use any power to keep the alarm deactivated.
 
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