Before and after photos
Road Warrior
Joined: Sep 2005
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From: Michigan
RE: Before and after photos
I always liked the color of your bike and now you made it look really cool with all the mods. you've done. Nice job!
I think you will be in the BOTM very soon if not the next one.
I think you will be in the BOTM very soon if not the next one.
Road Captain
Joined: Dec 2005
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From: Land O'Lakes, FL
RE: Before and after photos
ORIGINAL: WS6 Formula
I edited in some front shots in above.
As far as handling......not what I expected....smoother ride, the side walls must be softer. It feels like a totally different bike, it has better low speed stability(1/2* more rake then the Low Riders triple clamp, total now is 31*), the bike feels lighter, very nimble, its so easy to take a turn or change lanes, very little effort, I guess because of the wider forks, it gives you an advantage like holding a bicycle tire and having someone spin it, and when you try and turn it your fighting that gyro, then doing the same but using a longer axle you get a better mechanical advantage.
I edited in some front shots in above.
As far as handling......not what I expected....smoother ride, the side walls must be softer. It feels like a totally different bike, it has better low speed stability(1/2* more rake then the Low Riders triple clamp, total now is 31*), the bike feels lighter, very nimble, its so easy to take a turn or change lanes, very little effort, I guess because of the wider forks, it gives you an advantage like holding a bicycle tire and having someone spin it, and when you try and turn it your fighting that gyro, then doing the same but using a longer axle you get a better mechanical advantage.
But I seriously doubt that what you are feeling is due to the width of the forks. If you are gripping the bars in the same place, then you don't have any mechanical advantage over what you had before. It's either rake, trail or tire profile and I'm convinced that what I'm feeling is primarily the tire. Your experience only further convinces me since my experience has been so similar.
The bike looks awesome and that is definitely one of the sharpest factory paint schemes ever. The WG looks great on there as does the 21" tire.
Kevin
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From: From Long Island, now in So. Cal
RE: Before and after photos
ORIGINAL: metal_mike
awesome! thanks
b.t.w. i noticed you ditched the skull a/c cover...good move!
although its a nice piece...[got mine from the same place] the one you made from the stock a/c cover looks much classier
fits the bike much better
awesome! thanks
b.t.w. i noticed you ditched the skull a/c cover...good move!
although its a nice piece...[got mine from the same place] the one you made from the stock a/c cover looks much classier
fits the bike much better
ORIGINAL: kpreese
My theory on this is that the 21" tire has a smaller radius on the profile of the tire. A smaller lean induces more turn. I put on a springer and so I've got some other factors at play here (rake and trail changes) just like you do. But I do believe the 21" tire is giving me this same "nimble" feeling. I've been saying it is more "eager" but without being jittering or nervous.
But I seriously doubt that what you are feeling is due to the width of the forks. If you are gripping the bars in the same place, then you don't have any mechanical advantage over what you had before. It's either rake, trail or tire profile and I'm convinced that what I'm feeling is primarily the tire. Your experience only further convinces me since my experience has been so similar.
The bike looks awesome and that is definitely one of the sharpest factory paint schemes ever. The WG looks great on there as does the 21" tire.
Kevin
ORIGINAL: WS6 Formula
I edited in some front shots in above.
As far as handling......not what I expected....smoother ride, the side walls must be softer. It feels like a totally different bike, it has better low speed stability(1/2* more rake then the Low Riders triple clamp, total now is 31*), the bike feels lighter, very nimble, its so easy to take a turn or change lanes, very little effort, I guess because of the wider forks, it gives you an advantage like holding a bicycle tire and having someone spin it, and when you try and turn it your fighting that gyro, then doing the same but using a longer axle you get a better mechanical advantage.
I edited in some front shots in above.
As far as handling......not what I expected....smoother ride, the side walls must be softer. It feels like a totally different bike, it has better low speed stability(1/2* more rake then the Low Riders triple clamp, total now is 31*), the bike feels lighter, very nimble, its so easy to take a turn or change lanes, very little effort, I guess because of the wider forks, it gives you an advantage like holding a bicycle tire and having someone spin it, and when you try and turn it your fighting that gyro, then doing the same but using a longer axle you get a better mechanical advantage.
But I seriously doubt that what you are feeling is due to the width of the forks. If you are gripping the bars in the same place, then you don't have any mechanical advantage over what you had before. It's either rake, trail or tire profile and I'm convinced that what I'm feeling is primarily the tire. Your experience only further convinces me since my experience has been so similar.
The bike looks awesome and that is definitely one of the sharpest factory paint schemes ever. The WG looks great on there as does the 21" tire.
Kevin
ORIGINAL: hd_sob
Would like MORE info on the following:
D&D Fat Cat 2 into 1 exhaust
How much, how loud and where to get...
THANKS!
Would like MORE info on the following:
D&D Fat Cat 2 into 1 exhaust
How much, how loud and where to get...
THANKS!
Road Captain
Joined: Dec 2005
Posts: 591
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From: Land O'Lakes, FL
RE: Before and after photos
ORIGINAL: WS6 Formula
I still believe the way the bike is reacting has something to do with the wider placement of the forks on the axle(better mechanical advantage). I noticed after I did the conversion the bike was real sensative to the lightest input to the handle bars going straight down the road. As is said on the Jerry Springer show many times....."you know what I'm saying"
I still believe the way the bike is reacting has something to do with the wider placement of the forks on the axle(better mechanical advantage). I noticed after I did the conversion the bike was real sensative to the lightest input to the handle bars going straight down the road. As is said on the Jerry Springer show many times....."you know what I'm saying"
What you describe is exactly what I am noticing. Less handlebar movement (and pressure) initiates a lean of the bike. The spacing of those tubes won't have any impact on this though. It's counter-intuitive but it's true. You move your left grip forward an inch and you still have the same leverage and get the identical amount of movement of your front tire. What's changed is that your bike is responding differently to the same amount of tire movement . . . it wants to lean quicker AND it actually turns sharper for the same amount of lean.
There was another discussion recently, I think in the softail area, on how the 21" tire increased the responsiveness. A lot of people have changed to a 21" tire with the same front end and notice the same change in handling that we are getting.
Kevin
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From: From Long Island, now in So. Cal
RE: Before and after photos
kpreese,
One of the first things I noticed after installing the 21" wheel and Wide Glide triple clamps is a big increase in sensitivity to counter steering. I actually had to change my riding habits to go straight down the street, that's why I attribute this to the wider axle. Like a gyro experiment we did way - way back in elementary school with a bicycle wheel with a long axle. When you hold the axle and someone spins the wheel, you try to turn the wheel but you are now going against the force of a gyro, but when you move your hands further out on the axle you get more leverage and it is easier to turn............................"you know what I'm saying?"
One of the first things I noticed after installing the 21" wheel and Wide Glide triple clamps is a big increase in sensitivity to counter steering. I actually had to change my riding habits to go straight down the street, that's why I attribute this to the wider axle. Like a gyro experiment we did way - way back in elementary school with a bicycle wheel with a long axle. When you hold the axle and someone spins the wheel, you try to turn the wheel but you are now going against the force of a gyro, but when you move your hands further out on the axle you get more leverage and it is easier to turn............................"you know what I'm saying?"