has anyone noticed any difference on gas with ethanol
Road Master
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The entire ethanol gambit is a joke, so the people pay more for fuel, that gets less mileage.
Gee the petro companes dont mind, the states collecting more taxes dont mind.
Why should You
Use to be we had a few ethanol free gas stations around here...no more.
10% ethanol drops MPG and dogs the engine a bit.
10% ethanol drops MPG and dogs the engine a bit.
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From: williamston, n.c
The major problem with ethanol is that it is less volatile than gasoline, produces 2x the amount of ozone as well as all of the combustion by-products as gasoline. In trying to clean up the atmosphere, ethanol actually does more damage. Since it does not combust as cleanly as gasoline, it causes your engine to run less efficient sucking up more gasoline and reducing your fuel efficiency. The use of 10% mix was mandated in many states and cities and I wish we would get rid of it.
http://www.ethanolfacts.com/ETHL2008/page.php?pgID=19
http://www.ethanolfacts.com/ETHL2008/page.php?pgID=5
There are bad effects of ethanol but the good affects out way them. Smaller and newer cars have the best effects with ethanol as compared to a camaro or or a large gas truck. I personally don't use ethanol due to my vehicles not responding to it very well. I have noticed a decline in MPH over the last month and like I said I dont use ethanol mixed gas and Im still seeing decreased MPH.
"Ethanol contains approx. 34% less energy per unit volume than gasoline, and therefore in theory, burning pure ethanol in a vehicle will result in a 34% reduction in miles per US gallon , given the same fuel economy, compared to burning pure gasoline. Since ethanol has a higher octane rating, the engine can be made more efficient by raising its compression ratio. In fact using a variable turbocharger, the compression ratio can be optimized for the fuel being used, making fuel economy almost constant for any blend. "
www.eere.energy.gov
www.eia.doe.gov
"Ozone levels are significantly increased, thereby increasing photochemical smog and aggravating medical problems such as asthma."
"Clearing the air on ethanol".
Environmental Science & Technology. 2007-04-18. http://pubs.acs.org/subscribe/journals/esthag-w/2007/apr/science/ee_ethanol.html. Retrieved 2008-01-14.
M. Z. Jacobson (2007-03-14). "Effects of Ethanol (E85) vs. Gasoline Vehicles on Cancer and Mortality in the United States". ACS Publications. http://pubs.acs.org/cgi-bin/sample.cgi/esthag/asap/html/es062085v.html. Retrieved 2008-01-14.
The negative effects of ethanol far outweight the positive. There is in fact a move to have ethanol laws repealed. This article from 2008 has many further citations as to the negatives of biofuels.
http://www.heritage.org/Research/Rep...thanol-Mandate
Even Al Gore has taken to questioning the wisdom of ethanol.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/40317079...s-environment/
Did you need more citations?
www.eere.energy.gov
www.eia.doe.gov
"Ozone levels are significantly increased, thereby increasing photochemical smog and aggravating medical problems such as asthma."
"Clearing the air on ethanol".
Environmental Science & Technology. 2007-04-18. http://pubs.acs.org/subscribe/journals/esthag-w/2007/apr/science/ee_ethanol.html. Retrieved 2008-01-14.
M. Z. Jacobson (2007-03-14). "Effects of Ethanol (E85) vs. Gasoline Vehicles on Cancer and Mortality in the United States". ACS Publications. http://pubs.acs.org/cgi-bin/sample.cgi/esthag/asap/html/es062085v.html. Retrieved 2008-01-14.
The negative effects of ethanol far outweight the positive. There is in fact a move to have ethanol laws repealed. This article from 2008 has many further citations as to the negatives of biofuels.
http://www.heritage.org/Research/Rep...thanol-Mandate
Even Al Gore has taken to questioning the wisdom of ethanol.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/40317079...s-environment/
Did you need more citations?
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I don't know if this exists or not, but it would be nice to have a list of companys/stations that have pumps available that have non blended gasoline. It would be nice to know before you pull up at the station.
Road Master
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From: Albuquerque, New Mexico
I never see any stations that DON'T have ethanol blends. 
FWIW, I changed plugs yesterday in my 2009 FXDC at 11,000 miles and they were about
as perfect a color as you could ask for. I don't like ethanol, it's a scam, but the bike seems
to be digesting it fine.
FWIW, I changed plugs yesterday in my 2009 FXDC at 11,000 miles and they were about
as perfect a color as you could ask for. I don't like ethanol, it's a scam, but the bike seems
to be digesting it fine.
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SEARCH www ETHANOL FREE GAS FOR A LIST OF LOCATIONS IN ALL STATES! FOUND A LOCATION 3 MILES FROM HOME. DAVIDSON, TRUCK & CAR RUN A LOT BETTER WITHOUT ETHANOL. RESEARCH ETHANOL AND SEE WHAT IT DOES TO AN AIR COOLED MOTOR. SOME FOLKS SAY NO HARM AND SOME FOLKS TELL BAD RESULTS.
