has anyone noticed any difference on gas with ethanol
Political and financial issues with it aside, here's what happens when you use it as fuel:
Ethanol is not specifically hydrophilic. However, it is miscible with water, meaning that it mixes very well with water. This is both good and bad.
It's good because with straight gasoline, any water which manages to get into your fuel tank will settle at the bottom much more quickly than it would if ethanol were present. So as long as you keep refilling with fresh E10, you'll never suffer water buildup.
It's bad because its miscibility means it can hold more water in suspension until there's so much water that you get phase separation. This means that the ethanol and water eventually settle at the bottom, with just the gasoline on top. Since Ethanol carries a higher effective octane rating than gasoline, refiners/suppliers tend to rely on it to meet their advertised octane rating rather than using other methods. So when the phase separation occurs your fuel's octane drops. This problem is much more common with watercraft.
In either case, it is best to prevent water from entering your fuel tank in the first place, regardless of whether or not you have Ethanol in your fuel. This means keeping the tank topped off so that as the vapors expand and contract with temperature fluctuations, less water vapor is drawn in through the vent lines.
Gas stabilizers do absolutely nothing for either ethanol, water, or phase separation. All they do is help to prevent oxidation which, along with volatility, is one of the two things which tends to make gas go bad. Oxidation because it changes the chemical makeup of the fuel, and volatility because the more volatile components evaporate, leaving fuel behind that's harder to burn.
Someone else mentioned Ducati. What he says is true. Most Ducati fuel tanks are made of Nylon (either 6 or 6,6, I'm not sure which). Both of these forms of Nylon are hydrophilic, meaning they absorb water. Up to about 9% by mass. This causes them to deform, which can lead to poor fit and leaks and has, in fact, happened to my Ducati in only two years.
I have never had a problem with E10. I would like to try straight gas once to see if it is better.
http://www.ethanolfacts.com/ETHL2008/page.php?pgID=19
http://www.ethanolfacts.com/ETHL2008/page.php?pgID=5
There are bad effects of ethanol but the good affects out way them. ...
Next time you do some research, I'd recommend try some independent non-vested scientific findings.
The local Shell dealer here showed me his invoice last summer and it was 10%. The local Chevron dealer showed me his invoice and it was 7%.
I found out deliveries may vary on the Ethanol mix but the upper limit allowable at this time in CA is 10%.
I've been running Chevron...
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