Well, here goes nothing
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RE: Well, here goes nothing
Yeah I was going to hold out for the gear drive cams as well, and finallly decided, what the hell, go for it.
I work outdoors in construction, and with the weather this time of year, I have a lot of time off.
There is really nothing to this. Really the only "specialty tool" that I missed, was the chain gear holder thingy, and I managed to make do without it.
Cams out, pistons off.
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I work outdoors in construction, and with the weather this time of year, I have a lot of time off.
There is really nothing to this. Really the only "specialty tool" that I missed, was the chain gear holder thingy, and I managed to make do without it.
Cams out, pistons off.
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RE: Well, here goes nothing
My version of the "wrist pin removal tool" that HD instructs us to purchase.
I bet mine is a lot cheaper than theirs.
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I bet mine is a lot cheaper than theirs.
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RE: Well, here goes nothing
ORIGINAL: Psycho
Yeah I was going to hold out for the gear drive cams as well, and finallly decided, what the hell, go for it.
I work outdoors in construction, and with the weather this time of year, I have a lot of time off.
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Yeah I was going to hold out for the gear drive cams as well, and finallly decided, what the hell, go for it.
I work outdoors in construction, and with the weather this time of year, I have a lot of time off.
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I'd go for it too, tired of waiting, but.... Other stuff happening on the scoot.
So, if you have "extra" offtime, will you be opening up the primary side
to have a peek at that controversial bearing??
Or has yours been replaced. Mine, no noises, but I am curious.
mud
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RE: Well, here goes nothing
The cams came ups today, and boy am I glad I didn't buy the bearing kit. The new cams come with races installed, and my handy dandy digital caliper says they are absolutley identical in every fashion to the old cams.
Give me one damn good reason I would want to take a chance on replacing the inner cam bearings??? They are perfectly fine, and we know they are properly installed by the pattern on the old cams. Why the hell screw with what is working and take a chance on getting a bearing in wrong or messing up a cage or something??
The moco just wants you to spend the money. From the readings I'm getting on the depth of these cams, I'm betting I end up returning the shim kit too. The new cams are identical to the old ones in every respect as far as the bearings and sprocket relationshiop is concerned.
Give me one damn good reason I would want to take a chance on replacing the inner cam bearings??? They are perfectly fine, and we know they are properly installed by the pattern on the old cams. Why the hell screw with what is working and take a chance on getting a bearing in wrong or messing up a cage or something??
The moco just wants you to spend the money. From the readings I'm getting on the depth of these cams, I'm betting I end up returning the shim kit too. The new cams are identical to the old ones in every respect as far as the bearings and sprocket relationshiop is concerned.
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RE: Well, here goes nothing
Cams reassembled on the cam support plate with the timing marks lined up.
I forgot to take any once I reinstalled the cam support back over the oil pump. Sorry.
I didn't need the cam spacer kit. It will be returned. Everything was lined up perfectly without it.
Let me say once more, that cam replacement really is a simple process on these bikes. Everything is pretty much self explanatory, and the timing marks are easy to see and line up. As far as all the special tools the book gives for cam replacement, the only tool that would even be somewhat useful would be the cam sprocket locking tool, and I made do without it just fine.
I forgot to take any once I reinstalled the cam support back over the oil pump. Sorry.
I didn't need the cam spacer kit. It will be returned. Everything was lined up perfectly without it.
Let me say once more, that cam replacement really is a simple process on these bikes. Everything is pretty much self explanatory, and the timing marks are easy to see and line up. As far as all the special tools the book gives for cam replacement, the only tool that would even be somewhat useful would be the cam sprocket locking tool, and I made do without it just fine.
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It's always easier to get forgiveness than permission. If needed, try diamonds to calm the wife down, but don't spend too much. I KNOW there are more parts you "need"... [sm=escape.gif]
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RE: Well, here goes nothing
ORIGINAL: Psycho
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Let me say once more, that cam replacement really is a simple process on these bikes.
Everything is pretty much self explanatory, and the timing marks are easy to see
and line up. As far as all the special tools the book gives for cam replacement,
the only tool that would even be somewhat useful would be the
cam sprocket locking tool, and I made do without it just fine.
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Let me say once more, that cam replacement really is a simple process on these bikes.
Everything is pretty much self explanatory, and the timing marks are easy to see
and line up. As far as all the special tools the book gives for cam replacement,
the only tool that would even be somewhat useful would be the
cam sprocket locking tool, and I made do without it just fine.
cam sprocket locking tool??? Jack handle?? How did you deal with this??
mud
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RE: Well, here goes nothing
Tensioners had no wear to amount to anything at around 9000 miles.
Locking tool, had the wife hold the crank nut on the other side of the engine. 24 ft lb on the crank sprocket bolt, 34 ft lb on the rear cam sprocket bolt. Heated the bolts on removal to release red locktite, came right out no prob. 24 and 34 is not much torque on reinstall. Worked great.
Locking tool, had the wife hold the crank nut on the other side of the engine. 24 ft lb on the crank sprocket bolt, 34 ft lb on the rear cam sprocket bolt. Heated the bolts on removal to release red locktite, came right out no prob. 24 and 34 is not much torque on reinstall. Worked great.