96 vs 103 Dyna
Cruiser
Joined: Jul 2012
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From: Los angeles california
I just did a stage 1 over the weekend on my 2012 wideglide "103" and it pulls really good now i couldnt b happier with the results, the noticeable gain from stock to stage 1 is there when i throttled it WOT i wasnt prepared to feel the bike move me off the seat i had to grip the bars tight so i disnt fly off lol
Road Master
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From: Surprise, AZ
I just did a stage 1 over the weekend on my 2012 wideglide "103" and it pulls really good now i couldnt b happier with the results, the noticeable gain from stock to stage 1 is there when i throttled it WOT i wasnt prepared to feel the bike move me off the seat i had to grip the bars tight so i disnt fly off lol
Road Master
Joined: May 2009
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From: Saginaw, MI
I have enjoyed doing the performance upgrades in stages, it cost more, but is fun to see what gains you receive with the changes you make.
p.s. I am never going to increase the cubic inches though! lol
Last edited by hddan502; Aug 16, 2012 at 04:07 PM.
Road Master
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From: Surprise, AZ
Cubic inches very important, but much depends on the build, tune, rider, pipes, cams etc, etc, etc. I have a 96 stock was like 63hp/74tq. on a good day. I installed PCIII, Speeds a/c and Cobra pipes (builder says pipes are robbing me of plenty of gains, but i like sound and look) that took me to 70.8 hp/82.2 tq. Next was Woods 555 cams bumped me to 83.4hp/94tq I smoked a stock 103. Head-work and small compression bump this winter I hope to be close to 100hp/100tq+. If i change pipes to a proven 2 into 1 it can certainly hit the 100/100 easy.
I have enjoyed doing the performance upgrades in stages, it cost more, but is fun to see what gains you receive with the changes you make.
p.s. I am never going to increase the cubic inches though! lol
I have enjoyed doing the performance upgrades in stages, it cost more, but is fun to see what gains you receive with the changes you make.
p.s. I am never going to increase the cubic inches though! lol
Tourer
Joined: Jul 2012
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From: Denver
Stage 1 103 vs a 96 w stag 1 and cams, is pry about even. Also the cost of both is pry about even. With a 103 (assuming its new) you get a warranty and most likely better engine longevity. You have to do less to it to make it fast as a hopped up 96.
I found it was similar when shopping for a new truck. The big v6 and smaller v8s just didnt feel as nice as the big v8. There is no comparison.
There are plenty of ridiculously fast 88's, and 96's. If you are a wrench monkey maybe you would enjoy building a motor more than going with a 103 and doing less. I like to start with a solid platform and go from there.
Stock 96 vs 103 there is a noticeable difference, stage 1 96 vs 103 there is a noticeble difference. Long term the 103 will be worth more and more sought after. 103 use to be a few thousand dollar upgrade and is now standard on most HD bikes. For example the 96 fatbob is now worth less because it has the 103 in it now, same body same everything otherwise. 2013 the streetbob is getting a 103, and now older streetbobs will be worth less because of it. In a few years people looking to buy a used couple year old dyna will pay more for 103 models. Something to think about-depends on what your long term goals are and how deep your pockets are. Once you get used to riding any bike, you always want more power-you will be glad you went with the 103
Cruiser
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From: 3rd Rock
I had a 88 inch 06 super glide with stage 1, python staggered duels, se intake and a v&h fuel pak, and I'm sure It would out run my 08 fat bob with rush slip on's, power vision from fuel motto and se heavy breather to about 100 mph or so, it was geared better than the bob, but I think the fat bob would take it on top end. The shorter stroke 88 inch was way faster thru the gears.
Banned
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From: California
Look it's simple math, you stage one either bike with cams, breather and pipes the 103" wins every time. Build for build 103" will crush the 96" the 96" motor gets less reliable the more you do to it without increasing the cubes... but by all means continue to explore the options but my money is on the 103" build for build. And no 88" is ever gonna track with a 96" or 103" that's just the facts.
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Road Master
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From: Surprise, AZ
Look it's simple math, you stage one either bike with cams, breather and pipes the 103" wins every time. Build for build 103" will crush the 96" the 96" motor gets less reliable the more you do to it without increasing the cubes... but by all means continue to explore the options but my money is on the 103" build for build. And no 88" is ever gonna track with a 96" or 103" that's just the facts.
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From: California
I realize that but build for build stage one on a 103" vs a 96", 103" wins.