HD Strike & Dealer Allotment Issues
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RE: HD Strike & Dealer Allotment Issues
ORIGINAL: Ratbasturd
You must be one of them democrats who think they knows whats best for others.
Nobody made you click this thread, did they?
Nobody, made you read it, did they?
Nobody made you continue to reply to a thread you said should be killed.
However, since you did take time out of you life that you can never get back to tell people what to do I thought I should reply.
ORIGINAL: voyager1
this thread was killed by the mods before ! now union talk is up and posting again. kill this thread please . riding bikes and union talk do not mix . i do not want to hear this crap .
ORIGINAL: glide05
Got to agree with Mud -
I don't know jack about the situation - but I have to believe that the MOCO understands how much better off they are with a free flowing supply chain rather than allocation. I also have to believe that the union understands they are not going to get everything they want. We are living in an economy of auto plant closings, layoffs, cutbacks, etc.
MOCO and union workers will both suffer with a lengthy strike. Too many $$$$$ on the line - the bikes will get to where they will move but the consumer has certain expectations at this point. Radical pricing changes will turn buyers away and tip the whole situation on it's head. All parties involved understand that.
Got to agree with Mud -
I don't know jack about the situation - but I have to believe that the MOCO understands how much better off they are with a free flowing supply chain rather than allocation. I also have to believe that the union understands they are not going to get everything they want. We are living in an economy of auto plant closings, layoffs, cutbacks, etc.
MOCO and union workers will both suffer with a lengthy strike. Too many $$$$$ on the line - the bikes will get to where they will move but the consumer has certain expectations at this point. Radical pricing changes will turn buyers away and tip the whole situation on it's head. All parties involved understand that.
Nobody made you click this thread, did they?
Nobody, made you read it, did they?
Nobody made you continue to reply to a thread you said should be killed.
However, since you did take time out of you life that you can never get back to tell people what to do I thought I should reply.
<g> thanks !!! [sm=yikesomg.gif]
[sm=shootshoot.gif]we are one big happy family here : i give you one up, at least you do not lower to name calling. you ok dude. have a good one man, ride on . nice looking ride you got,i must say. i click all theads. not the first time i been flipped off,sure not the last .. democrat. not sure what that is,LOL. peace . off to ride now, hey,warmed up to 10 here now !!! so,who did you vote for ?
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From: SW Ohio
RE: HD Strike & Dealer Allotment Issues
Ratbasturd
what bags u got there,i like them ...i just a cheap **** i guess to pay the big bucks for h.d. bags. unless i can find some used ones .
what bags u got there,i like them ...i just a cheap **** i guess to pay the big bucks for h.d. bags. unless i can find some used ones .
Road Warrior
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From: MA
RE: HD Strike & Dealer Allotment Issues
ORIGINAL: dlstanf2
Sorry for this Post but, Original Post Locked.
Here's what I heard from a dealership in the DC area this weekend plus other dealerships on my travel back to NC. This post has nothing to do with attitudes about the strike but with what the dealers are doing.
Once the strike began, the discounts that the dealer was offering stopped. Back to the originial MRSP. The dealer also said that once the current stock on the floors is sold, if the strike is still in place, there would be no new bikes to fill the void.
Another issue was that HD has began, this year, it's overseas dealerships and that beginning next year the stateside dealers would be strapped with a "Dealer Allotment" in order to supply the overseas dealers.
I'm not sure how this is going to play out or what the MOCO's policies are, but it sounds as if the plentiful supplies of Harleys is going to dwindle.
Post what you know or can find out.
Sorry for this Post but, Original Post Locked.
Here's what I heard from a dealership in the DC area this weekend plus other dealerships on my travel back to NC. This post has nothing to do with attitudes about the strike but with what the dealers are doing.
Once the strike began, the discounts that the dealer was offering stopped. Back to the originial MRSP. The dealer also said that once the current stock on the floors is sold, if the strike is still in place, there would be no new bikes to fill the void.
Another issue was that HD has began, this year, it's overseas dealerships and that beginning next year the stateside dealers would be strapped with a "Dealer Allotment" in order to supply the overseas dealers.
I'm not sure how this is going to play out or what the MOCO's policies are, but it sounds as if the plentiful supplies of Harleys is going to dwindle.
Post what you know or can find out.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070208/...avidson_strike
Tourer
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RE: HD Strike & Dealer Allotment Issues
I think they call it pressure tactics. I thought Harley Employees ratified a contract a year ago, and yes there has always been an alottment. Any Harley people have anything to add to this topic?
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Road Master
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From: New Bern, NC
RE: HD Strike & Dealer Allotment Issues
Latest is that a little over 7100 motorcycles have failed to be built. 400 employees have been laid off. Stock is down some, the dealers have an abundance of motorcycles, and so it goes.
Not as bad a Chrysler. 13,000 laid off and Diamler/Chrysler is talking about selling off the US unit.
Not as bad a Chrysler. 13,000 laid off and Diamler/Chrysler is talking about selling off the US unit.
Cruiser
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From: SF Bay Area, California
RE: HD Strike & Dealer Allotment Issues
Harley reaches tentative pact with strikers
Fri Feb 16, 8:04 PM ET
Harley-Davidson Corp said on Friday it had reached a tentative agreement to end a strike by 2,800 workers at its largest plant. The U.S. motorcycle maker declined to disclose details of the proposed deal that would end a walkout at its plant in York, Pennsylvania, which entered its third week on Friday. The company said it would not specify when production would resume at the plant, which makes its Touring and Softail motorcycles. Harley said the agreement was subject to ratification by workers and that a vote was expected some time next week. A spokesman for the International Association of Machinists and Aerospace Workers, which represents the striking workers, confirmed that an agreement had been reached. Picketing is expected to stop tomorrow, and a vote by the rank and file will likely take place next week. The strike, the first at the motorcycle maker in 16 years, began on February 2, after the workers rejected the company's "last, best and final" offer for a new three-year contract. Harley, which has a number of major union contracts expiring over the next year, had been seeking a variety of concessions from workers, including a new two-tier wage-and-benefit plan. Milwaukee, Wisconsin-based based Harley said the concessions were necessary to help the company, which is enjoying growing sales and profit, avoid finding itself "in the same position that the Detroit auto industry is in now" 10 years down the road. The walkout was already hurting Harley and its suppliers, with Harley warning that its first-quarter shipments would not meet forecasts and that layoffs at motorcycle component plants in Wisconsin that supply the striking plant were likely. Analysts estimated that each day of the strike cost Harley $11 million in lost sales, and about one penny per share in earnings. (Additional reporting by Franklin Paul in New York) http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20070217/...son_strike1_dc[/align][/align]
Fri Feb 16, 8:04 PM ET
Harley-Davidson Corp said on Friday it had reached a tentative agreement to end a strike by 2,800 workers at its largest plant. The U.S. motorcycle maker declined to disclose details of the proposed deal that would end a walkout at its plant in York, Pennsylvania, which entered its third week on Friday. The company said it would not specify when production would resume at the plant, which makes its Touring and Softail motorcycles. Harley said the agreement was subject to ratification by workers and that a vote was expected some time next week. A spokesman for the International Association of Machinists and Aerospace Workers, which represents the striking workers, confirmed that an agreement had been reached. Picketing is expected to stop tomorrow, and a vote by the rank and file will likely take place next week. The strike, the first at the motorcycle maker in 16 years, began on February 2, after the workers rejected the company's "last, best and final" offer for a new three-year contract. Harley, which has a number of major union contracts expiring over the next year, had been seeking a variety of concessions from workers, including a new two-tier wage-and-benefit plan. Milwaukee, Wisconsin-based based Harley said the concessions were necessary to help the company, which is enjoying growing sales and profit, avoid finding itself "in the same position that the Detroit auto industry is in now" 10 years down the road. The walkout was already hurting Harley and its suppliers, with Harley warning that its first-quarter shipments would not meet forecasts and that layoffs at motorcycle component plants in Wisconsin that supply the striking plant were likely. Analysts estimated that each day of the strike cost Harley $11 million in lost sales, and about one penny per share in earnings. (Additional reporting by Franklin Paul in New York) http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20070217/...son_strike1_dc[/align][/align]
Road Master
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RE: HD Strike & Dealer Allotment Issues
One thing for sure HD dealers network with one another my Bob came from another dealer across town (oil filler cap has their logo on it) not the dealer's where I bought it. So I figure you can get pretty much what you want from a decent sized franchise dealer that networks.
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