Hey Just gonna throw my 2 cents in. i bought my Screamin Eagle Dyna at Thiel's wheels in Upper Sandusky. They sell for MSRP with not setup or freight costs. Incredible group there and a very very respected service department, last time I was in there they were doing a ground up 124" that was expected to dyno at over 170 HP. Tell them Phil Wright sent you, won't get you a discount but will get you a smile and a "that guy is in here all the time"...lol. Anyway I have been to alot of dealers and Thiel's is by far the best combo of service, sales, and personality. Website is www.twheels.comthen click on the Harley Davidson link.