Thoughts on this Stage 2 quote?
Thoughts on this Stage 2 quote?
Got this quote to do a full stage 2 kit. Well respected dealer in my area recommends 254e cams but I still think I have my heart set on 204s. Keep in mind this is in Canadian dollars, also noted is that he selected the wrong big bore kit in the quote, but no biggie. 1500 parts, 1200 labour including 4 hour dyno. Thoughts?
Tourer
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If it takes more then 2 hours on the dyno I would wonder if they know what they are doing. My tuner took about 1hourand 20mins to build a complete map from scratch. If the bike is carbureted it may take longer not real sure there.
EFI, $300-$400 seems pretty standard for a Dyno, no?
Road Warrior
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I don't know about this. Most good tuners will spend more than 2 hours dialing everything in. I think my guy put about 60 miles on dyno tuning my bike. Putting a basic map on a bike doesn't take a lot of skill but getting every last hp and ftlb and making the bike run as well as possible through all rpms takes a little time. My bike ran great with the initial basic tune but I picked up an additional 4 hp and 6 ftlbs after an afternoon on the dyno.
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Right off the bat, he is ripping you off of $200 by making you buy quick install pushrods.
You are already buying a top end gasket kit plus you are going big bore...make him use your stock pushrods.
Also, do some research and see what all is included in the kit...looks like you are buying extra gaskets that should be included.
I could never stand to pay the dealer for stuff like this.
You are already buying a top end gasket kit plus you are going big bore...make him use your stock pushrods.
Also, do some research and see what all is included in the kit...looks like you are buying extra gaskets that should be included.
I could never stand to pay the dealer for stuff like this.
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I don't know about this. Most good tuners will spend more than 2 hours dialing everything in. I think my guy put about 60 miles on dyno tuning my bike. Putting a basic map on a bike doesn't take a lot of skill but getting every last hp and ftlb and making the bike run as well as possible through all rpms takes a little time. My bike ran great with the initial basic tune but I picked up an additional 4 hp and 6 ftlbs after an afternoon on the dyno.
Right off the bat, he is ripping you off of $200 by making you buy quick install pushrods.
You are already buying a top end gasket kit plus you are going big bore...make him use your stock pushrods.
Also, do some research and see what all is included in the kit...looks like you are buying extra gaskets that should be included.
I could never stand to pay the dealer for stuff like this.
You are already buying a top end gasket kit plus you are going big bore...make him use your stock pushrods.
Also, do some research and see what all is included in the kit...looks like you are buying extra gaskets that should be included.
I could never stand to pay the dealer for stuff like this.
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If he is a decent dealer, he may order everything and then remove what is not needed after they see what is in the kit...taking it off your bill.
I would want to know though and would go in there well informed.
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I would say you can save the 200 plus a little more by researching what the kit includes.
If he is a decent dealer, he may order everything and then remove what is not needed after they see what is in the kit...taking it off your bill.
I would want to know though and would go in there well informed.
If he is a decent dealer, he may order everything and then remove what is not needed after they see what is in the kit...taking it off your bill.
I would want to know though and would go in there well informed.
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Before you commit to have the wrok done at the dealer...you better make sure the dyno tuner really knows what he's doing. I see a ton of people spend big bucks on engine work and then they get a shitty tune and negates the results.