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Old Dec 6, 2016 | 06:54 AM
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So I have had my bike stored in the garage sitting on a tender. I decided that I wanted to change the oil before the long winter storage. I went to go turn over the bike and apparently it didn't have enough juice to start. I thought this was strange since it's been sitting on the tender with a green (charged light). The local temp hasn't fallen below 28 degrees. Any ideas about what might have caused the problem and what to do for next time? As of right now, I removed the battery, which after the start attempts, was at 11.8 volt, and placed it on the tender inside my house. I'm going to have a second go at turning over the bike this afternoon.
 
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Old Dec 6, 2016 | 06:58 AM
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After it's charged, take it somewhere to get it load tested.
Also check the resistance on the battery cables.
 
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Old Dec 6, 2016 | 07:10 AM
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I've had a battery tender go bad on me. Indicated that battery was charged(green light) but the unit itself was cooked. Got as new one and it charged the battery right up.
 
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Old Dec 6, 2016 | 07:18 AM
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I've had a battery tender go bad on me. Indicated that battery was charged(green light) but the unit itself was cooked. Got as new one and it charged the battery right up.
I thought that too, so I monitored the charge with my multi meter. Started charging when the battery was at 11.8v and this morning the tender light was green, battery read like 13v. Is it possible for a tender to trickle charge fine, but fail on maintaining a float?
 
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Old Dec 6, 2016 | 08:02 AM
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Originally Posted by QC
After it's charged, take it somewhere to get it load tested.
Also check the resistance on the battery cables.
I really want to check that out. Anyone know what degree of accuracy a battery load tester does to indicate the current health of a battery? I know I brought an old a$$ car battery, at least 5 years old and corroded, to AutoZone and they said it passed... I know the actual performance from the battery wasn't all that great.
 
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Old Dec 6, 2016 | 11:28 AM
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There is often more to problems like this than is obvious! What your battery reads static is of limited benefit. The recommendation to get your battery tested at a local auto store is a good one and will give you the thumbs up or down on your battery. Exactly what do they do? Don't know, doesn't matter! Ask them while you are there and then let us know!!!! You come away knowing you either have a good or a knackered battery. That info is often free and yet priceless.

If you have a good battery, or buy a new replacement, you know that any recurring problems are in the bike.
 
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Old Dec 6, 2016 | 07:06 PM
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There is often more to problems like this than is obvious! What your battery reads static is of limited benefit. The recommendation to get your battery tested at a local auto store is a good one and will give you the thumbs up or down on your battery. Exactly what do they do? Don't know, doesn't matter! Ask them while you are there and then let us know!!!! You come away knowing you either have a good or a knackered battery. That info is often free and yet priceless.

If you have a good battery, or buy a new replacement, you know that any recurring problems are in the bike.
So i visited Autozone with my trickle charged battery. They tested it with the load tester and it read slightly above the stickered Cold Cranking Amps, so i assume thats good. After the visit, i installed it into my bike, and it fired up with zero effort! That leaves me wondering why, even after having it sit in the cold garage with the trickle charger attached, did the battery fail to stay at near 100 percent charge for my initial starting, which started this post?
 
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Old Dec 6, 2016 | 07:14 PM
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Generally, trickle chargers are intended to keep a fully charged battery topped off. If there might have been a drop in CCAs prior to hooking up the trickle charger you could very well get a green light without having the amps to crank it. CCA and Volts are two different things. I've seen voltmeters read 12.6 volts, but the battery didn't have the amps to crank the bike.

Also, I'm sure you're aware, that when it's cold the oil is a bit thicker and it takes a bit more to crank a cold engine like that.

Just my 2 cents.
 
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Old Dec 6, 2016 | 07:20 PM
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I've had this issue with my tender/battery as well. first start of the day it's really dragging to get started. rest of the day it just fires right up every time. who knows?
 
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Old Dec 7, 2016 | 04:19 AM
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Just to clarify, a trickle charger is a simple device which provides a battery with a steady low charging rate. Most of us these days use modern chargers, normally called tenders or minders, which are smart devices that monitor a battery and charge it accordingly - they are preferable to trickle chargers for use during the winter off-season, for those who like to hibernate!

As for cold starting, my first Harley was a kicker FX. That was impossible to start during cold weather, so I did as per the owners manual and changed the trans oil to a thinner variety. That may be a useful change for those of you who ride in cold weather.
 
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