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Old May 9, 2015 | 12:58 PM
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On to the pushrod adjustment,

I adjusted according to the HD instruction sheet, 2-1/2 turns from zero lash. Lifters sill not bleeding down after an hour. Maybe something is wrong?

My puahroids should be 32TPI, I measured with calipers, about 8 threads per 1/4 inch; some sources show 3.8 turns and the HD sheet shows 2- 1/2.

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Old May 9, 2015 | 01:14 PM
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Most lifter preloads I've seen, including mine (H-D) require about .100, maybe a bit more, which would be 3.2 turns on your pushrods. I've seen in here that some lifters take a while to bleed down.
 
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Most lifter preloads I've seen, including mine (H-D) require about .100, maybe a bit more, which would be 3.2 turns on your pushrods. I've seen in here that some lifters take a while to bleed down.
That's right, 3.2 turns. I did 2.5 turns so far, and still no bleed down. I guess I'll just have to give it some time.

I did make two marks on the cam chest plate - one where the front piston is at TDC and another for rear piston. I checked these last night and they seem pretty accurate.
 
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Old May 9, 2015 | 01:23 PM
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So you still can't twist the p-rod with your fingers?
 
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Old May 9, 2015 | 01:27 PM
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So you still can't twist the p-rod with your fingers?
Nope, not yet.
 
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Old May 9, 2015 | 01:28 PM
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TFor sure some do. That's why I like tho go the other way and start with a dry lifter it's easier to completely compress and the reverse the adjustment. 32 tpi should be 031" for one full revolution. So from a dry lifter I adjust till there is no lash but still able to spin the pushrod and back off the adjustment 2 full revolutions.. This will give you approx. .140" preload. I disassemble the lifter and clean it to get it to completely collapse..when reassembling the lifter I give everything a thin coat of oil. It takes all the guess work out of "did all the oil get squeezed out so I can set my preload" after all that I crank the motor with the plugs out atleast twice for 15 seconds ( give a couple minutes in between cranks) each time make sure there is oil at the lifters.... Then proceed to start up..
 

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Old May 9, 2015 | 01:40 PM
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Ok, the exhaust finally bled, just gotta wait for the intake.

So, I should go 3-1/8 turns, right? If it's 32TPI.
 
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Originally Posted by 98hotrodfatboy
TFor sure some do. That's why I like tho go the other way and start with a dry lifter it's easier to completely compress and the reverse the adjustment. 32 tpi should be 031" for one full revolution. So from a dry lifter I adjust till there is no lash but still able to spin the pushrod and back off the adjustment 2 full revolutions.. This will give you approx. .140" preload. I disassemble the lifter and clean it to get it to completely collapse..when reassembling the lifter I give everything a thin coat of oil. It takes all the guess work out of "did all the oil get squeezed out so I can set my preload" after all that I crank the motor with the plugs out atleast twice for 15 seconds ( give a couple minutes in between cranks) each time make sure there is oil at the lifters.... Then proceed to start up..
Very smart. Next time I start with new lifters I will do this.
 
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Old May 9, 2015 | 10:46 PM
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Well, just my Effing luck - oil weeping from the base of each cylinder. Geez. I checked and double checked that oring.
Started it up and saw the front cylinder exhaust start to smoke a little, but it went away. Rode the bike nice and easy, seemed fine. No strange noises or anything weird.

Time buy a new bike. : (
I don't want to take this thing apart again, son of a bitch!
 
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Old May 10, 2015 | 12:41 AM
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Sorry to hear about your leak. Definitely a bummer. Don't give in just yet. Are both jugs leaking and are the leaks inline with the stud that is closest to the dowel and o-ring at the head gasket? Did they leak prior to the rebuild? I never built a twin cam before and I can understand the use of the o-ring when using the stock head gasket. However I saw the embossed area in the cometic head gasket around the dowel which looked like a it fit very nicely around the dowel. Usually a raised area like that is usually the crush point to make the proper seal. I wouldn't think there would be the necessity for both with the cometic head gaskets. I would PM johnjz, he has a shop in jersey and has a wealth of knowledge and ask him directly about the use of both with the cometic kit.
 
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