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Engine Mechanical TopicsDiscussion for motor builds, cams, head work, stripped bolts and other engine related issues. The good and the bad. If it goes round and around or up and down, post it here.
...We can argue all day long about how much better off he is with the bike tuned properly with a full featured flash tuner...
Umhhh, technically I think we're actually agreeing on that part.
Originally Posted by qtrracer
They did that to keep his warranty intact. Once he uses any other tuner to load a map and actually tune the bike his warranty for the 120ST is kaput.... that is the reason.
All the corporate-lawyer-mandated legal mumbo-jumbo is pretty clear: once you do something to your bike, the dealer and/or the MoCo has the right to deny a warranty claim. That doesn't necessarily mean they're going to. Honestly, I'd be very surprised that a dealer would put a 120 motor in a customer's bike, charge him the $6k++ for the motor and other parts, plus labor, plus an SEPST, tune the motor, and then deny a warranty claim because they used a SEPST to tune the motor.
Could they do that? Absolutely! Would they actually do that? Not so sure about that one in the real world.
All the corporate-lawyer-mandated legal mumbo-jumbo is pretty clear: once you do something to your bike, the dealer and/or the MoCo has the right to deny a warranty claim. That doesn't necessarily mean they're going to. Honestly, I'd be very surprised that a dealer would put a 120 motor in a customer's bike, charge him the $6k++ for the motor and other parts, plus labor, plus an SEPST, tune the motor, and then deny a warranty claim because they used a SEPST to tune the motor.
Could they do that? Absolutely! Would they actually do that? Not so sure about that one in the real world.
The installing dealer may not do it, they'd be foolish if they did. The problem lies when you're 1,000 miles from home and at the mercy of a different dealer. I can almost guarantee if someone comes off the freeway to a dealer I used to do business with, the worm of a service manager will drop a dime on them if they have non warranty parts or tuner on the bike. You're safe if its something simple like a tire or a radio, but screwed if its something in the engine or they have to look at the ecm with the digital technician and find the pn of the download is from a race tuner.
Why does it seem all the threads anymore turn into a da*% debate about warranty...
Because a lot of folks want to modify without knowing the ramifications. People point them out then the folks who either have no experience with having a warranty flagged, or don't give a **** about warranty jump in.
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