Hey guys. Hope this is the right place for this. I have been having a whistling or whirling noise coming from my primary over the last several months. I took it in June 8th and left the bike for 18 days while I was doing my annual training with the military. Picked the bike up, they said it was good and nothing was wrong. Said the noise I was hearing was from my rear tire wearing uneven. Bike was less than a year old and tires making horrible noise when leaning left. Ok, so it kept making the whistling/whirling noise so I decided I would change my primary fluids. At this time, the only ones who had touched this was my local dealer. As soon as I popped the drain plug, oil started coming out and kept coming out. I was trying to measure it and spilt a lot of it. It was around 2 quarts that came out. I checked the engine oil and it was low. I looked at the drain plug and it had metal all over it. One piece was maybe 3/4 inch long and about double the size of pencil lead. Next morning I went to my dealer and showed him a pick of it. He asked for me to bring it in so he could look at it. I did and he said it looked like it came from a tooth off of the tensioner. At this point, I checked the oil again and it was even lower than before. He asked me to bring it in so they could check it out. I took it in Tuesday July 18 and dropped it off. I talked to them today and they said it was ready to go. I asked what the issue was and they told me nothing was wrong. They checked everything in the primary and did a leak down test on the cylinders and it showed only 3% loss. I haven't picked it up yet. Going tomorrow to get it.
I just can't understand why there was a quart too much oil in my primary, metal all over my drain plug, and the engine oil was low but nothing is wrong. I was actually thinking that they would say the crankshaft seal was bad. Not sure what to do or say when I go down there but wanted to get with you guys and see what you thought. Sorry this is so long, I just wanted to kinda get you up to speed. Thanks guys

 

If you are getting engine oil in your primary you are correct that your crank seal is bad...As for the metal, there is something wrong in there. Tiny metal shavings on the magnetic drain plug are normal, a piece as big as you mentioned is not. Lucky for you the bike is still under warranty, right?

 

Thanks dfwhockey17. Yeah It's still under warranty. Your thoughts are exactly like mine. I can't understand how they can say there's nothing wrong. I actually had someone video me draining the Primary and it shows there's a lot of oil coming out and all of the metal on the drain plug.
I know it's still under warranty but I don't want to be on it and something go wrong. Kind of gives me an unsafe feeling. Maybe I'm being a little paranoid though.
I'm just not sure what to do or say now. They did tell me that all the fluids are the correct level now and to drive it 1000 miles, don't touch anything, and bring it back.

 

I would tend to agree with the above post. There is no way to fill the primary with 2 quarts of oil through the Derby cover area so it must be motor oil leaking over Just keep an eye on your oil dipstick after every ride and you'll know soon enough what's going on if anything. I was going to say originally the whining primary noise was an over ratcheted auto chain tensioner but if the noise is gone that must not have been it or they fixed it by simply resetting it

 

Thanks ntraindavefl. Not sure if the whining is gone or not. I'll know tomorrow when I pick it up. I'll definitely keep a check on the oil and see what happens from here.

 

Hopefully they didn't just open up the cover call it good put it back and fill the oil. It wouldn't be the first time a dealership overlooked or failed to properly diagnose a problem. Just keep a good eye on everything, the bike owner always cares more than anyone else LOL Good luck keep us posted.

 

Was the clutch slipping at all? You would think so with that much oil in the primary.

 

I'm hoping that's not the case and they checked everything out. You're correct about who cares most. Lol.
GalvTexGuy, If it was slipping, it wasn't bad. They told me on the phone that they did check the clutch and it was fine.
I'll post back later today on how things go there after I pick it up.

 

Ok guys. I feel a little better now. I went down at lunch to pick up my bike. I wasn't told the whole story on the phone call yesterday. I sat down with the mechanic and he explained everything that was done. He checked the entire primary, seals, bearings and everything looked good. He did a compression check and a leak down test with good results. He said the only other thing it could have been was the breathers in the rockers and they replaced them. They told me to ride it 1000 miles and bring it back and to keep a good check on the engine oil.
Moral of the story for me, talk to the guy who did the work and get the full story. Thank you guys for all of the input and assistance. The whinning is still there, but not as loud It has been checked so I feel better about it.

Thanks Again

 

I wish you the best of luck with your bike but if I have read and understand your story correctly the dealer's findings and corrections don't match some of the symptoms you have described. I would be keeping a very close eye on everything or have someone who may have a better understanding assist you in keeping an eye on everything. I sincerely hope you don't have any more issues but this don't add up in my book