Harley 135se vs built motor
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From a tire perspective, I’d suggest getting the stickiest street tire you can. I’m running 10s in the 1/4 on stock Dunlops but bike spins through first and second on the street. You’ll be making more power than me. Avon cobra chrome is my go to for performance Harleys but I’ve not tried every single tire out there. Never liked the Metzeler 880 or 888 tires for a hot bike but the cruise techs I’ve not tried.
837b is a nice grind, I had one once but never ended up using it. What’s your static comp? I’d be open to more cam given 133 cubes and your power goal. Your tuner’s dyno seems very generous. I don’t see 170/170 with that cam on an honest dyno but if going for 170/170 on his dyno, diff story.
Gorgeous bike and should be a blast to ride.
837b is a nice grind, I had one once but never ended up using it. What’s your static comp? I’d be open to more cam given 133 cubes and your power goal. Your tuner’s dyno seems very generous. I don’t see 170/170 with that cam on an honest dyno but if going for 170/170 on his dyno, diff story.
Gorgeous bike and should be a blast to ride.
Last edited by MattLS6; Nov 6, 2023 at 10:39 AM.
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I only read the first five or six posts, and stopped. So my apologies if Im being redundant here. But you are absolutely agonizing over nothing. The difference between a 131 and a 135 is exactly that. Four. It should equate to about 1.3 Ho per cubic inch. Personally, I would not go to a 135 unless your motor needed to be rebuilt. I think thats just dumb money. If your heads werent done properly or if theres something wrong internally or maybe a cam selection or as somebody mentioned in the first few posts, pipe selection, thats about all Id do. Because magically turning it into a 135 with the same parts isnt gonna give you any more power but maybe six or 7 hp.
I would guess that what youre missing is they either creeped the compression way up put in a different pipe a different cam and theyre not running pump gas. In fact, thats probably ethanol free hundred octane, gas that its tuned to to make those numbers.
Sorry, if I sound grouchy or annoyed, but I get kind of caught up in all these ridiculous people talking about Dyno sheets. Its just the stupidest thing ever. Go to the dragstrip. Thats what fast is. These Dyno sheets mean nothing its a game, and it digs everybodys wallets, and they all bloviate and pound their chest and act like theyre making all this power, and then they show up at the dragstrip and theyre not even fast is my shovel. Its just stupid. Your agonizing talking about $8000 over six or 7 hp. Horsepower.
I would guess that what youre missing is they either creeped the compression way up put in a different pipe a different cam and theyre not running pump gas. In fact, thats probably ethanol free hundred octane, gas that its tuned to to make those numbers.
Sorry, if I sound grouchy or annoyed, but I get kind of caught up in all these ridiculous people talking about Dyno sheets. Its just the stupidest thing ever. Go to the dragstrip. Thats what fast is. These Dyno sheets mean nothing its a game, and it digs everybodys wallets, and they all bloviate and pound their chest and act like theyre making all this power, and then they show up at the dragstrip and theyre not even fast is my shovel. Its just stupid. Your agonizing talking about $8000 over six or 7 hp. Horsepower.
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From a tire perspective, Id suggest getting the stickiest street tire you can. Im running 10s in the 1/4 on stock Dunlops but bike spins through first and second on the street. Youll be making more power than me. Avon cobra chrome is my go to for performance Harleys but Ive not tried every single tire out there. Never liked the Metzeler 880 or 888 tires for a hot bike but the cruise techs Ive not tried.
837b is a nice grind, I had one once but never ended up using it. Whats your static comp? Id be open to more cam given 133 cubes and your power goal. Your tuners dyno seems very generous. I dont see 170/170 with that cam on an honest dyno but if going for 170/170 on his dyno, diff story.
Gorgeous bike and should be a blast to ride.
837b is a nice grind, I had one once but never ended up using it. Whats your static comp? Id be open to more cam given 133 cubes and your power goal. Your tuners dyno seems very generous. I dont see 170/170 with that cam on an honest dyno but if going for 170/170 on his dyno, diff story.
Gorgeous bike and should be a blast to ride.
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I will ask jake tomorrow that all i could find for information online thats not my photo.
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When I pop into these threads I get the impression everyone thinks their redline is 4000 rpm. You know with 150 at the rear wheel, if your aggressive youll lift the front wheel off the ground at anything more than 4500 rpm.. they do run above that..
If youre making an honest 130+ you really dont need more if your not at the strip.
If youre making an honest 130+ you really dont need more if your not at the strip.
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I personally have a bit more than 130/130 and I truly need about 20 more of each on my 128" 850lb touring bike. Most good running stage 2 lighter softails can pull on my heavy sled. 150/150 combination would rectify that.
I also have a very light "built" 80" Shovel on a very light Pohco hardtail that can runaway from my sled as well.
And truly no such thing as too much power if it has very good manners (easily controlled with throttle) from takeoff and @ any speed as long as you are able and of sound mind.
I also have a very light "built" 80" Shovel on a very light Pohco hardtail that can runaway from my sled as well.
And truly no such thing as too much power if it has very good manners (easily controlled with throttle) from takeoff and @ any speed as long as you are able and of sound mind.
