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Old Feb 2, 2024 | 07:20 AM
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Per a discussion in a different thread about cost of boring. One shop told me they charge more for going to big cylinders than just going .010s over. Different shop is doing it this time, due to location. They said they do multiple passes to get the size needed and then hone. I don't know how it works. So I am only guessing, but every jump in size probably requires some set up. Maybe big places it is automated. This shop I did not ask if they charge more.
 
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Per a discussion in a different thread about cost of boring.
Good idea.
 
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Old Feb 2, 2024 | 09:39 AM
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Originally Posted by djl
Good idea.
The thread was closed so I can't quote it. But since this is a thread about boring cylinders I thought it fit
 
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Old Feb 2, 2024 | 09:49 AM
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Originally Posted by Rounders
Per a discussion in a different thread about cost of boring. One shop told me they charge more for going to big cylinders than just going .010s over. Different shop is doing it this time, due to location. They said they do multiple passes to get the size needed and then hone. I don't know how it works. So I am only guessing, but every jump in size probably requires some set up. Maybe big places it is automated. This shop I did not ask if they charge more.
How much are they going to charge? In my case I’d consider buying new since I’d also have them repainted. Also not worry about the shop screwing something up.
 

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Old Feb 2, 2024 | 10:55 AM
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Originally Posted by Rocking_it
How much are they going to charge? In my case I’d consider buying new since I’d also have them repainted. Also not worry about the shop screwing something up.
Two things to take in consideration on new cylinders,
First, I wouldn't put total trust in production cylinders machine work, I'd still measure everything
Second, used cylinders been through many heat cycles and any cast shifting has already occurred, "seasoned" cylinders should be more stable and hold size better after re-bore
That's my theory anyway.
 
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Old Feb 2, 2024 | 11:08 AM
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Have not seen a tread on seasoned cylinders in awhile. Used to come up a bit when going from 88 to 95.

Shop is charging 250 to bore. I provided them with pistons. Some shops provided pistons and gaskets. They were going to,but the shop repAiring my crank had a set in stock, and they wanted weights of pistons.
 
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Old Feb 2, 2024 | 11:09 AM
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Originally Posted by Rounders
Per a discussion in a different thread about cost of boring. One shop told me they charge more for going to big cylinders than just going .010s over. Different shop is doing it this time, due to location. They said they do multiple passes to get the size needed and then hone. I don't know how it works. So I am only guessing, but every jump in size probably requires some set up. Maybe big places it is automated. This shop I did not ask if they charge more.
In short, yes bigger bore takes more time. You can't cut a bore straight from a 96 to a 103 or 107, there's physical limits on the cutters used. That being said though, a few extra passes boring a cylinder is a drop in the bucket compared to setup time
 
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Old Feb 2, 2024 | 12:12 PM
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Proper bore/hone, piston fitment is critical in engine build. And sometimes taken for granted. I have been burned before on this. Once by an at the time here reputable shop. Nothing like piston slap on a new build. I have my go to shop for any cylinder work now. I'm sure there are others who are equal but one gets any future work from me. Brown truck goes anywhere
 
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Originally Posted by PureHybrid
In short, yes bigger bore takes more time. You can't cut a bore straight from a 96 to a 103 or 107, there's physical limits on the cutters used. That being said though, a few extra passes boring a cylinder is a drop in the bucket compared to setup time
I am going to call it a bit, because I don't know proper term. I am thinking like a drill press assembly. Obviously not the same . Does one bit bore top to bottom, them next goes bigger? Standard bits you grab and install next bigger size? Like a massive drill index?

Or do you adjust the diameter of the cutter to the width you want?

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Originally Posted by Rounders
I am going to call it a bit, because I don't know proper term. I am thinking like a drill press assembly. Obviously not the same . Does one bit bore top to bottom, them next goes bigger? Standard bits you grab and install next bigger size? Like a massive drill index?

Or do you adjust the diameter of the cutter to the width you want?

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