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Old Feb 4, 2024 | 07:04 PM
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Originally Posted by 60Gunner
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Your reasoning to stay small because of heat makes no sense when you're thinking of skimping on the tune.

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I never said I was staying small due to heat. I have said why is the 96" hotter, yes it has more displacement, and I think that must play a part as engines get bigger. But cams and heads are the other thing different than 88s.
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Maybe not 96". IIRC, wasn't '07 the year the MoCo outsourced cranks off shore? IIRC, seems there was a marginal increase in crank failure with the '07 models while the new vendor worked out the bugs.
I know someone who can talk privately to dealer mechanics, they didn't say why, just that they have seen a lot of 2007 crank failures.

But still begs the question, if 103 and later TCs can handle the power, why? 96 is just a stroked 88.
 
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Old Feb 14, 2024 | 06:56 AM
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Up to $5k, hopefully $2200 for bottom end comes in on estimate. With engine out,and mileage doing motor mount, stabilizers, also doing igntion coil with tank off, and plug wires. Still need to get a few seals and gaskets, and oil. It goes fast. Not all of this would be need for boring to 103.

Picking up parts at dealer, he said 2007 was a bad year. Maybe it comes back to first year of a model. But they were doing stroked 103 in the CVOs I would think. But low production numbers.

Not factoring any kind of tuning yet.

It seems they ended up chasing their tail for awhile after the 96" came out.

Not sure I could even get $5k for the bike.


LAst bike I did motor mount when top end off, I had to loosen to get clearances. My theory is must compress a little.
 

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Old Feb 14, 2024 | 07:08 AM
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The 2007 model year had IPB issues with it walking into the seal. After rebuild into a 103 cu in, probably worth 5K. Ride it an enjoy it once you get it back together.


Year:
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Make: Harley-Davidson
Model: FLHTC Electra Glide Classic
Model Type: Cruiser
Displacement: 1584
Cylinders: 2
VIN: 1HD1FF417
Finance Advance: $5,055
MSRP: $18,095
Avg Retail: $6,070
Auction Wholesale $5,080
Clean Trade: $4,795
Fair Trade: $4,130
 
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Old Feb 14, 2024 | 07:37 AM
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After replacing two inner primary bearings, I went to a baker. It has around 20k, so will see. Around 25k went to hayden, spring tensioner, thinking that was it. Boy that thing sure seems tight, but so did the factory. I think bearing failures are sign of tight chain. I believe tight chain would cause issue with the outside bearing on the crank, on the sprocket side.

My failure was the bearings on the pin, not sure terminology. They then damaged the pin.

I never sell things, so I am just going to keep riding. When I get a new touring bike, I say I will trade/sell and get new one, to have a new one. Maybe my new one I will do that with. Though what I should do is let the new one become my old one, and get a new one. But I get attached to things, and you don't get much for high mileage bikes.
 
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Old Feb 14, 2024 | 12:14 PM
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Some of you have been asking for a pic of my rod.

 

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Old Feb 14, 2024 | 05:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Rounders
Some of you have been asking for a pic of my rod.
Nice try but I'm pretty sure if you actually did it would look more like this!!
 
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Old Feb 14, 2024 | 05:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Rounders
Some of you have been asking for a pic of my rod.
No we were asking for pics of your build, you know motorcycle torn down, engine on engine stand or bench or floor, cylinders being torn down. Just a stinking rod on asphalt tells us nothing.

Maybe you can provide a few pictures of your crankcase and new rods when you get it back from Dark Horse along with pictures of the assembly of the pistons to the new rods, cylinders and new pistons. But I expect that will not happen.
 
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Old Feb 14, 2024 | 06:25 PM
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Originally Posted by CoolBreeze3646
No we were asking for pics of your build, you know motorcycle torn down, engine on engine stand or bench or floor, cylinders being torn down. Just a stinking rod on asphalt tells us nothing.

Maybe you can provide a few pictures of your crankcase and new rods when you get it back from Dark Horse along with pictures of the assembly of the pistons to the new rods, cylinders and new pistons. But I expect that will not happen.
You right, I am not going to. It is not like it would make you happy. I have put up pictures in the past.


On other forums I did write ups with pics. But now adays you you can find that on you tube. People like to show a pic of their bike on the rack, which really doesn't provide any help. But I get it we like to look at pics. We tend to stop, and look.

But there is no point in providing pics. Plus where do you think I got the rods from? If you want to believe I don't own a bike, I am perfectly fine with that. Nothing will change your mind, and you are not the kind of person I am going to be buddies with anyways.


Either way, going to put the old piston and wrist pins in, and pin, and hang on the wall.
 
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Originally Posted by Rounders
Some of you have been asking for a pic of my rod.
If you have the rods, you should have the pin, take a close up of the pin and the big end rod bearing surfaces, lets see why the rods where stiff.
Wouldn't that contribute to help and learning?




 
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Originally Posted by Schex
If you have the rods, you should have the pin, take a close up of the pin and the big end rod bearing surfaces, lets see why the rods where stiff.
Wouldn't that contribute to help and learning?
I'll look. Bad bearings is what caused it. To diagnois that lift up the rod, it should fall easy. Its kind judgement call. I am not sure I would caught, my friend pointed it out, and then compared on another open engine. Not like they are extremely restrictive. Hold it up, it should fall right away, not stand up for a second. Again something someone experiend pointed out to me.

They give you everything they took out. Probably put with all the other bearings and such I have pulled over the years and keep for some reason. I say maybe to use to press a new one. Lots of junk laying around

I have really enjoyed working with a pro. Amazing how fast they go. I tend to dilly dally, go post 20 times on the forum, ect.



Tangent, I get why pros like tables, especially based on lifetime of working. But you with the extensions you are kind of far away. Sometimes I like getting right in there I also don't like the screwing around to get it on there. Really better with 2 people. Might have to make modify my own jack. Been thinking about running something down from the ceiling to support. Maybe something can lift too. Maybe that Kendon trailer that is skinny and folds up.

I removed an engine with craftsman jack, I liked it could get right in there to grab it. On a table I had to jump up on table.
 

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