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It does have a bit of a grinding sound to it.. Mismatched gear pitch? I saw somewhere that you can simply buy a gear set including the cam and pinion. That way there is no confustion.
It can be difficult to pin down a noise from a recording. Buying a matching gear set doesn't mean that the gear mesh will be right for the particular engine. Back in 1974 the tooling wasn't as accurate as a CNC, so the tolerances weren't as good as they are now. The reason that there are different sizes of pinion & cam gears is there were variances of the locations of the pinion and cam journals, so the gears had to be hand fitted from the factory to fit correctly.
It can be difficult to pin down a noise from a recording. Buying a matching gear set doesn't mean that the gear mesh will be right for the particular engine. Back in 1974 the tooling wasn't as accurate as a CNC, so the tolerances weren't as good as they are now. The reason that there are different sizes of pinion & cam gears is there were variances of the locations of the pinion and cam journals, so the gears had to be hand fitted from the factory to fit correctly.
Absolutely. I've got oversized Twinkey gear drive cams for when the clearance isn't correct. Even off by a couple of thou they can rattle pretty good. It would not surprise me that it's a gear pitch issue or even gears real tight.
Absolutely. I've got oversized Twinkey gear drive cams for when the clearance isn't correct. Even off by a couple of thou they can rattle pretty good. It would not surprise me that it's a gear pitch issue or even gears real tight.
The gears whine pretty loud if they are tight. The OP can pull a lifter block to check the gear lash if he is so inclined.
The lifter blocks are still out. What is the best way to check the gear lash?
Install the cam cover and the cam without the shim(s). Check to see that you are able to slide the cam back and forth without it binding, or feel noticeable play when rotating the cam & the gear. If it binds, you need a smaller gear, if you feel play between the gears, you need one size bigger.
Before you do this, check the crankshaft run out & end play first.
Install the cam cover and the cam without the shim(s). Check to see that you are able to slide the cam back and forth without it binding, or feel noticeable play when rotating the cam & the gear. If it binds, you need a smaller gear, if you feel play between the gears, you need one size bigger.
Before you do this, check the crankshaft run out & end play first.
I did as you suggested. I was able to slide the cam back and forth with no real resistance. When I tried to rotate it, I felt a very small amount of play. It is difficult for me to quantify the amount of play, but it was noticeable.
I did as you suggested. I was able to slide the cam back and forth with no real resistance. When I tried to rotate it, I felt a very small amount of play. It is difficult for me to quantify the amount of play, but it was noticeable.
You might be able to go in the lifter block hole with a test indicator.
Ok, so I haven't had a chance to do any measurement on the cam gear play yet but here is what I did for the pinion shaft play. Hopefully my methodology was solid.
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