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Old Aug 12, 2014 | 11:06 AM
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On the first start of the day my 02 heritage sputters and backfires thru the exhaust. I put new plugs in and new air filter, also had it checked for intake leaks there were none. It only does this for a short time then is fine all dsy even if it sits for 3-4 hours. Please help me figure this out
 
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Old Aug 12, 2014 | 04:40 PM
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After my HD dealer installed the Stage 4 race kit on my 2014 Breakout, I too had problems right after each FIRST (only) cold start of the day.

The bike would start right away, but the rpm would "hunt" for a couple of minutes, and the bike had to be nursed to keep it from stalling.

Then an expert tuner, Mike Lozano, who happens to have his shop near where I live, did his tune on the bike. TOTALLY resolved the problem.

In looking at the Power Vision software afterwards, I could see he changed the percent enrichment versus ambient outdoor temperature, for almost all the cells in that table.

Now, instant start, and instant stable rpm and instant drivability.

Get a GOOD tuner to tune that problem out.

Edit: Sorry, I did not ask if your bike is fuel injected or not - I assumed it was. If not, disregard what I said.
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Old Aug 12, 2014 | 04:58 PM
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First of all did this just occur on it's own or did it start happening after a part was added or ? Second of all is this bike carburated or fuel injected? Thirdly what, if any, modifications from stock have been performed?
 
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Old Aug 13, 2014 | 11:19 AM
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New air filter and plugs put in. No other changes. Before the filter and plugs it had a slight hiccup at cold temps in am or night. That stopped now I have this. It is carbureted
 

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Old Aug 13, 2014 | 11:41 AM
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Are you using the choke/enricher during this time? Sounds like it's ok after it warms up.
 
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Old Aug 16, 2014 | 12:59 PM
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Yes it is good when warmed up . I ran seafoam thru it and tried shutting petcock off .it started and ran great right away this morning. Dont know why just happy about it!!#
 
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Old Aug 17, 2014 | 10:15 AM
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Originally Posted by JimGnitecki
After my HD dealer installed the Stage 4 race kit on my 2014 Breakout, I too had problems right after each FIRST (only) cold start of the day.

The bike would start right away, but the rpm would "hunt" for a couple of minutes, and the bike had to be nursed to keep it from stalling.

Then an expert tuner, Mike Lozano, who happens to have his shop near where I live, did his tune on the bike. TOTALLY resolved the problem.

In looking at the Power Vision software afterwards, I could see he changed the percent enrichment versus ambient outdoor temperature, for almost all the cells in that table.

Now, instant start, and instant stable rpm and instant drivability.

Get a GOOD tuner to tune that problem out.

Edit: Sorry, I did not ask if your bike is fuel injected or not - I assumed it was. If not, disregard what I said.
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can you tell me how much he changed the % enrichment? like where it started and where it was finally set? i'm having a similar issue where it starts fine, then at as it approaches 100 degrees it will start having sputtering issues and i have to be on the throttle a little to keep it going. after a few moments, it will idle fine, but it seems to be in certain temp ranges.
 
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can you tell me how much he changed the % enrichment? like where it started and where it was finally set? i'm having a similar issue where it starts fine, then at as it approaches 100 degrees it will start having sputtering issues and i have to be on the throttle a little to keep it going. after a few moments, it will idle fine, but it seems to be in certain temp ranges.
I'm sorry but since I lost my job, I no longer have access to a Windows computer so cannot fire up the PV software to check the tables ( my wife and I use Mac machines).

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On the first start of the day my 02 heritage sputters and backfires thru the exhaust. I put new plugs in and new air filter, also had it checked for intake leaks there were none. It only does this for a short time then is fine all dsy even if it sits for 3-4 hours. Please help me figure this out
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