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Old May 15, 2017 | 06:42 PM
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If I had the choice between fuel injection and a carb, I will take fuel injection.
Would you like to explain your great wisdom or is it a great secret?
 
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Old May 15, 2017 | 06:51 PM
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When the people that build the "BIG " V twins from scratch --- it's the carb they are using
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It's all about Government regulation and compliance and not getting fined or going to court. So never.
 
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When is HD going to go back to carb bikes and no computerized stuff?
Three years after Chevy starts making '63 'Vettes again.
 
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My long term plan is to put EFI on my FLHT. Probably the chopper too. I need to upgrade the electrical system on the FLHT first. Trying to get EFI on the Sportster was a bit of a challenge. Or, as I say, like trying to put 5 lbs of **** in a 3 lb bag.
 
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Originally Posted by Hey Man
Three years after Chevy starts making '63 'Vettes again.
Believe it or not China makes most of the GM products.
 
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Old May 15, 2017 | 08:21 PM
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Originally Posted by jurob
If I had the choice between fuel injection and a carb, I will take fuel injection.
I guess jurob is going to keep FI a 00 top secret. Somebody have FBI Comey phone #?
 
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I prefer fuel injection, does that hurt your feelings? Why the personal attack?
 
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Originally Posted by jurob
I prefer fuel injection, does that hurt your feelings? Why the personal attack?
That's not a personal attack to get you to explain your opinion. Guess I cant figure why I would like taking my bike to the dealership for diagnostic or replace a computer etc.
 
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Old May 15, 2017 | 08:57 PM
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Originally Posted by jurob
If I had the choice between fuel injection and a carb, I will take fuel injection.
If you are using the Magnetti and Marelli thats on your 2000 Road King as your foundation of opinion against a carb, you don't have any bullets in your gun. Now the Delphi system has proven itself, been working since 2002 is a different story.

Yes emissions took over the engine world, got to see the diesel evolve in front of me and controlled by regulations. Although Cat developed EFI on it's mid and large engines, they were paying a hefty fines to the gov each year because the engine still wouldn't meet emission standards, they threw in the towel on road application engines so EFI wasn't a savior for them.

On Harley EFI, it allowed an engine to meet emission standards to stay in production, remember the nut roasting 96 incher, it took lean to a new meaning, crap they dropped a cylinder at idle when it got hot so yes the gov controlled the American Legend and nothing they could do about it except say yes sir or Harley would be dead like Cat.

EFI has the ability to control fuel delivery at every point of rpms, it can change fuel, timing by spark more precisely and quicker than the carb bikes. A ECM can process information at a unbelievable rate, make changes and deliver and a carb 3 circuit crossover is no match for it, carb timing is based of rpm using a voes as a control and no match for a ECM. Tuning a EFI can be a double edge sword, you are at the mercy of a dyno operator and his experience but a weapon when done right but takes tuning away from the above average mechanical Harley owner, carb can be tuned by anyone with some help.

I know for a fact that a carb will out perform the M&M on the same engine from past experience plus run a carb on the big cube engine and performs flawlessly. Yes I could put EFI on the big motor and would most likely run well also but I would be f***ing with the fuel more than riding it, going to stand by the carb.

Expect more advanced EFI to come, faster, smarter and more functions. Our trucks run a data link systems from computer to computer that can transmit signals thru 3 to 5 wires instead of individual wires and computers can talk to each other processing information, allows items like brakes, transmissions, cab controls engine controls link together. Turn the air screw out a turn you say lol
 

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