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Old Aug 4, 2017 | 01:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Bobbed
its a single fire
in that case it definitely matters which wire goes to which plug.
 
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Old Aug 4, 2017 | 01:38 PM
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Did you check your front intake seals... Could be sucking air..... If it is a single fire coil you should have three wires going to coil your power source and then your to ignition source's coming off of your pickup. Another thing you could try with the ignition is to switch the wires on the coil top one to the bottom one bottom one to the top one this will change the firing of the cylinders but make sure you change the wire location to each plug as well. This way you can determine if it is your ignition or not. If it moves to the rear cylinder you got a coil issue.
 

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Old Aug 4, 2017 | 03:58 PM
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Originally Posted by 98hotrodfatboy
Did you check your front intake seals... Could be sucking air..... If it is a single fire coil you should have three wires going to coil your power source and then your to ignition source's coming off of your pickup. Another thing you could try with the ignition is to switch the wires on the coil top one to the bottom one bottom one to the top one this will change the firing of the cylinders but make sure you change the wire location to each plug as well. This way you can determine if it is your ignition or not. If it moves to the rear cylinder you got a coil issue.
swapped the coil out with a spare and no luck. I just don't get it?? Good compression, leak down test showed nothing, it's getting fuel and spark, valves are opening and closing?

im very stumped
 
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Old Aug 4, 2017 | 04:48 PM
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Back up a sec, in post 3, you said stock Harley ignition, if that's the case, you have dual fire.

Make sure the ignition rotor is tight and indexed in the cam slot.

Is any goo (potting) leaking from the cam position sensor?
 
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Old Aug 7, 2017 | 08:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Schex3x
Back up a sec, in post 3, you said stock Harley ignition, if that's the case, you have dual fire.

Make sure the ignition rotor is tight and indexed in the cam slot.

Is any goo (potting) leaking from the cam position sensor?
I don't see any goo and the rotor is indeed indexed.


 

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Old Aug 7, 2017 | 09:50 PM
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Well, took everything back apart just to be sure I didn't miss anything. Got it all lined up again. Checked all my abc's, let the lifters bleed, got it all hooked up. Still missing on the front cyclinder. Face Palm*

I threw a set of old plugs on and it ran a bit better so I picked up a set of new plugs this morning. Bike ran perfect for about 30 seconds then went back to doing the same dumb thing it's doing. About to throw in the towel and take it to the Harley dealer.

Before I do that though gonna switch the lifters around, maybe one of them is bad.
 
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Old Aug 8, 2017 | 06:15 AM
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Originally Posted by Bobbed
Well, took everything back apart just to be sure I didn't miss anything. Got it all lined up again. Checked all my abc's, let the lifters bleed, got it all hooked up. Still missing on the front cyclinder. Face Palm*

I threw a set of old plugs on and it ran a bit better so I picked up a set of new plugs this morning. Bike ran perfect for about 30 seconds then went back to doing the same dumb thing it's doing. About to throw in the towel and take it to the Harley dealer.

Before I do that though gonna switch the lifters around, maybe one of them is bad.
Can you post a pick of the new plugs? starting to sound like it might be running rich and possibly loading up the front cylinder....
 
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Old Aug 8, 2017 | 06:42 AM
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That's a dual fire aftermarket ignition, swap the wires on the spark plug ends only, if the problem stays the same, it's not the ignition, which it probably isn't.

Let's see those plugs, which carb is on it.
 
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Old Aug 8, 2017 | 07:38 AM
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Carb is just a stock HD CV carb with a 48 jet in it. I'll grab a pic of the plugs when I get home
 

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Old Aug 14, 2017 | 06:00 PM
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Haven't had a chance to get over to my bike. The guy working on it though thinks the crank might have "turned"?? Hence why it won't run right?

We have tried swapping the lifters, putting s different carb on it and no improvement.
 
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