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Old Aug 25, 2017 | 07:59 AM
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My ears are open, I checked the clutch hub tightness, pulled the center plate off and hit it with a impact, reverse threads
WP called me this morning and gave me more information.

His problem was the rivets that hold the primary chain sprocket to the clutch hub had loosened up on him.

He also told me I could send you his number if y'all want to talk directly but you can't call him before 6pm.

Let me know if you want his number.
 
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WP called me this morning and gave me more information.

His problem was the rivets that hold the primary chain sprocket to the clutch hub had loosened up on him.

He also told me I could send you his number if y'all want to talk directly but you can't call him before 6pm.

Let me know if you want his number.
Thanks guys, I checked sprocket on the clutch when going over everything in the primary.

Way home from work I ran the engine up to 5000 rpm and ugly, pulled the clutch in and free revved it right after that and uglier. Going to check the crank run out, Twinkie has been a bad experiment so far and going to show the White Bike some love and decommission the Twinkie
 
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Old Aug 26, 2017 | 06:22 AM
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Originally Posted by 1997bagger
Thanks guys, I checked sprocket on the clutch when going over everything in the primary.

Way home from work I ran the engine up to 5000 rpm and ugly, pulled the clutch in and free revved it right after that and uglier. Going to check the crank run out, Twinkie has been a bad experiment so far and going to show the White Bike some love and decommission the Twinkie
I think I think that's a good idea.......
 
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Originally Posted by 1997bagger
Thanks guys, I checked sprocket on the clutch when going over everything in the primary.

Way home from work I ran the engine up to 5000 rpm and ugly, pulled the clutch in and free revved it right after that and uglier. Going to check the crank run out, Twinkie has been a bad experiment so far and going to show the White Bike some love and decommission the Twinkie
Time to make it a fast lawnmower???
 
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Old Aug 26, 2017 | 07:55 AM
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Time to make it a fast lawnmower???
With the quiet exhaust, you remembered the lawnmower line, good stuff
 
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With the quiet exhaust, you remembered the lawnmower line, good stuff
A long time ago I was riding a 750 Honda.
I went to a Texas Motorcycle Rights Association meeting.

When I pulled up some guy asked me how much rice it took to start my bike.
After the meeting that same guy was trying (and failing) to kickstart his bike.
I walked over to mine, stood next to it, and hit the start button all the while looking right at the guy trying to start his bike.
Mine fired right up and the guy said "FU man!!!"
I just looked at him and said "Mines running..."

I have no idea if he ever got his bike started or if he had to tow it home.
 
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After doing some homework, found out that the 04-05 TC had cast style flywheels and known to shift because HD got cheap. The 06 was more of a disaster but Harley upped the warranty failure spec to .013 runout for replacement when the spec is set up at .001, covered their a$$e$. 07 flywheel problems died down and that design carries into a few years ago.

Funny thing is the famous HD marketing system was alive, HD made a hot forged tighter spec Screamin Eagle Flywheel you could purchase for $800, they even offered a 4.375 SE flywheel that has the ability to turn a 88" to a 103" which seems to be the 2nd best engine behind the 80" Evo. The 103" update was a "kit" for around $2500.

The 04-05 era was also when HD removed the tried and true Timken bearing on the left side of the flywheel that allowed the cheaper crank to even move around a little more, the Timken conversion was born by machinests and charge well to repair once again HD's cheaper assembly practice.

Kinda the bottom line is HD got cheap, swept the problem under rug and the consumer paid for the cheaper process. The proper repair seems to be re-trued flywheel, welded crank pin, timken conversion. Starting to appreciate my big cube Ultima pressed pin crank because I know what is thrown at it and it sees giddy up everytime out.
 

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Old Aug 27, 2017 | 08:28 AM
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Originally Posted by 1997bagger
After doing some homework, found out that the 04-05 TC had cast style flywheels and known to shift because HD got cheap. The 06 was more of a disaster but Harley upped the warranty failure spec to .013 runout for replacement when the spec is set up at .001, covered their a$$e$. 07 flywheel problems died down and that design carries into a few years ago.

Funny thing is the famous HD marketing system was alive, HD made a hot forged tighter spec Screamin Eagle Flywheel you could purchase for $800, they even offered a 4.375 SE flywheel that has the ability to turn a 88" to a 103" which seems to be the 2nd best engine behind the 80" Evo. The 103" update was a "kit" for around $2500.

The 04-05 era was also when HD removed the tried and true Timken bearing on the left side of the flywheel that allowed the cheaper crank to even move around a little more, the Timken conversion was born by machinests and charge well to repair once again HD's cheaper assembly practice.

Kinda the bottom line is HD got cheap, swept the problem under rug and the consumer paid for the cheaper process. The proper repair seems to be re-trued flywheel, welded crank pin, timken conversion. Starting to appreciate my big cube Ultima pressed pin crank because I know what is thrown at it and it sees giddy up everytime out.
If you are looking to fix your rotating assembly give darkhorse crankworks a call. A buddy of mine had the same problem with his 04 twinkie. He had them true and weld his crank along with do the timkin conversion. Bike runs smoother than it did when new.

​​​​​​His crank was pretty tweaked but it is built to 95 inches, had 60k miles on it and recieved some pretty serious abuse.....
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Originally Posted by Farm Shop
If you are looking to fix your rotating assembly give darkhorse crankworks a call. A buddy of mine had the same problem with his 04 twinkie. He had them true and weld his crank along with do the timkin conversion. Bike runs smoother than it did when new.

​​​​​​His crank was pretty tweaked but it is built to 95 inches, had 60k miles on it and recieved some pretty serious abuse.....
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Yes, aware of the Hoban Brothers, they are good. Checking prices, can have all that done to my 4" crank with a 95" upgrade, coming across 4.375 SE forged cranks already trued and welded for couple hundred more making a 103. Running a bigger stroke and less compression is the direction I'm thinking, it will have torque to pull loaded and won't need the rpm's.

That 95" is known as best bang for the buck and popular but ride with many 103's and a good motor. 103 with 9.5 compression and Andrews version of the the EV27 for a Twinkie is a win win.

For now, new Mega Crank battery coming for the White Bike and ride on, made a custom extended seat for the Road Glide and going to cross the seat and moved back tour pack to the White Bike when wife rides are needed.
 
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Old Aug 27, 2017 | 05:49 PM
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Any chance of transplanting a 103 into it.
You can find takeout 103's all over the place.
Found 3 in Texas alone for 1800.00 each with 1-2k mi.

I was replacing a 96 in a 08 ultra last year

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