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Old Jan 16, 2019 | 04:55 AM
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When something breaks there are only two options:
  1. repair what you have, if possible;
  2. replace with new.
The concensus above seems to be that the first option is neither possible - nor wise, even it is! Time to start saving.....

 
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Old Jan 16, 2019 | 05:30 AM
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I was watching a Youtube video on A Kicker install. Looked similar to yours. It was in a shop and the guy seemed competent.
Nothing but problem doing the complete install. Had it been Me I would have abandoned the project half way in.
 
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Old Jan 16, 2019 | 07:44 AM
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Originally Posted by NORTY FLATZ
Kicking a stock Evo isn't easy. Especially if it has the "federal" cam. Having a "high lift/ long duration" cam might be easier as the duration length may not create compression until later in the stroke. Unless, of course, it has a 10.5:1 piston, then all bets are off.
Tip~ When you kick, do not extend your leg to the point of locking your knee. If it "kicks back" with your knee locked, that may cause pain (and surgery to fix.)
I do exactly that
it kicks back regularly with no problem
its the dropping out that ****s my leg
 
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Old Jan 16, 2019 | 07:45 AM
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Originally Posted by Racepres
^^ I agree with all of the "get the best" posts... But, I understand ya gotta live with what ya gots.
Tip; Learned when we had a shop... When starting an Unknown Bike with a kicker...I have learned to be very careful getting "on stroke" then no Jumping and Kicking... Never Unload the Lever... ever... Just push it thru... If it is Gonna Start... It will... Don't need alot of Effort at all just roll 'er over... again... Never unloading the Lever before pushing it thru...
My $0.02... FWIW
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thanks for the info
 
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Old Jan 16, 2019 | 07:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Stevo1340

I do exactly that
it kicks back regularly with no problem
its the dropping out that ****s my leg
If you are getting kick back you need to tweak the ignition a bit, may be running a bit too much advance.

Pull the cover and see what's going on, the brass bushing is replaceable and better quality ones are readily available. As long as the shaft extension is ok the bushing will help. It needs to rotate freely on the shaft but not wobble side to side, that's what causes the sudden drop outs. .
 
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Old Jan 16, 2019 | 08:01 AM
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Originally Posted by TwiZted Biker
If you are getting kick back you need to tweak the ignition a bit, may be running a bit too much advance.

Pull the cover and see what's going on, the brass bushing is replaceable and better quality ones are readily available. As long as the shaft extension is ok the bushing will help. It needs to rotate freely on the shaft but not wobble side to side, that's what causes the sudden drop outs. .
ok so it has electronic ignition which was reprogrammed for a kicker
i assume you can’t just turn the unit to adjust the advance?

ill take a look for the bushing as I have a quite complicated looking instructions manual from chrome specialities
 
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Old Jan 16, 2019 | 08:05 AM
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Originally Posted by Stevo1340

ok so it has electronic ignition which was reprogrammed for a kicker
i assume you can’t just turn the unit to adjust the advance?

ill take a look for the bushing as I have a quite complicated looking instructions manual from chrome specialities
also, does the trans oil run into the kicker unit?
 
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Old Jan 16, 2019 | 08:31 AM
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Yes, the trans oil is in /behind the kicker cover.
 
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Old Jan 16, 2019 | 08:47 AM
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Originally Posted by grbrown
When something breaks there are only two options:
  1. repair what you have, if possible;
  2. replace with new.
The concensus above seems to be that the first option is neither possible - nor wise, even it is! Time to start saving.....
But, I don't think it is Broken... Just Crap Quality and Workmanship

Originally Posted by TwiZted Biker
If you are getting kick back you need to tweak the ignition a bit, may be running a bit too much advance.

Pull the cover and see what's going on, the brass bushing is replaceable and better quality ones are readily available. As long as the shaft extension is ok the bushing will help. It needs to rotate freely on the shaft but not wobble side to side, that's what causes the sudden drop outs. .
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Originally Posted by Stevo1340

ok so it has electronic ignition which was reprogrammed for a kicker
i assume you can’t just turn the unit to adjust the advance?

ill take a look for the bushing as I have a quite complicated looking instructions manual from chrome specialities
Ensure it really has been programmed to zero dead revs.. Plugs out resting on heads, ignition on, roll over by hand on kicker... spark quickly... not a couple of pushes...
This will also ensure the kit can actually engage properly without any pressure against it even... just like pushing it thru with pressure on it... can the damn thing even stay engaged when rolled over smoothly/slowly????
 
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Old Jan 16, 2019 | 10:21 AM
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Originally Posted by Racepres
But, I don't think it is Broken... Just Crap Quality and Workmanship
Don't be pedantic! It's not working, no longer doing its job, has failed, probably beyond repair, is 'broke'. The precise word is of no matter. Let go and look forwards.....
 
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