EVO All Evo Model Discussion

Front motor mount

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Jan 29, 2019 | 04:45 AM
  #71  
guido4198's Avatar
guido4198
Thread Starter
|
Grand HDF Member
15 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
Joined: Aug 2008
Posts: 3,599
Likes: 9,913
From: Florida's gorgeous East coast
Default

As I look over the various aftermarket mounts offered, there's a lot of pride shown by manufacturers in the videos they share when their mounts stop the motor from "shaking" in the frame. Well heck...that's not hard to do. Every SOLID mounted motor does that. Solid mounts just transfer all that "shaking" to the rider. I've read a lot of reviews of some of those aftermarket products that according to the reviewers...seem to do the same thing...bolt everything up to their particular proprietary material, and the vibration just goes straight to the rider. If I'm a racer or just someone who wants to rip over the "Tail of the Dragon" in record time...that's not an issue. That's not me...I'm more of a generic "Longrider" and enjoy the smooth ride my FXR has traditionally provided on the open road...tooling along in the 70-90 mph range. Since that ride has degraded somewhat, I'm looking around at front engine mounts.
I went to the Kinetic Structures website and read through the information provided. Sent them an email to ask for specific information about their experience with longevity of the metal mesh FXR mount they offer, effect on vibration in grips and floorboards/footpegs, etc.( Please note, I'm not trying to "slip in" a commercial for them by any means....just imparting what I've learned thus far about a product I've never heard of. I won't be offended if moderators delete this whole thing if it crosses some kind of line.)
It was only a couple hours later, I received a very prompt response from the President of the company, Mr. Harry Artenian. Their FXR mount is interesting to me if only due to the fact that they depart from the general approach others take using various proprietary polymeric materials and go a whole new direction. That is to say, new for motorcycle motor mounts. Their website says the use of metal mesh is common and successful in other mounting applications but I have no experience in those areas so I can't comment. As a result, I would REALLY like to hear from FXR riders who have tried their metal mesh mount and get some reviews about the effect on vibrations, how long they last, etc.. According to Mr. Artnenian's response, they have only had the FXR mounts on the market since last August (2018). He says their mesh mount provides "riding vibration similar to the best rubber or polyurethane mounts" He also points out that "Wire mesh has unique characteristics that cannot be achieved by rubber or polyurethane" but doesn't elaborate. Their metal mesh mount is not an inexpensive option at something like $139.00 (pricing from the website). That said, for someone like myself who is keeping one bike (1985 FXRS) on the road for 34 yrs/285,000 mi (and counting...) it's not much to pay if it truly offers some improvement over what's already out there, noting that several of the other rubber/urethane products are already similarly priced.
 

Last edited by guido4198; Jan 29, 2019 at 04:53 AM.
Reply
Old Jan 29, 2019 | 06:40 AM
  #72  
Schex's Avatar
Schex
Club Member
15 Year Member
Joined: Apr 2011
Posts: 5,802
Likes: 7,829
From: SE Louisiana
Riders Club Member
Default


Interesting
 

Last edited by Schex; Jan 29, 2019 at 06:43 AM.
Reply
Old Jan 29, 2019 | 06:58 AM
  #73  
Kingglide549's Avatar
Kingglide549
Banned
Joined: May 2018
Posts: 4,576
Likes: 978
From: Viet Vet, crossroads
Default

In all my days from here to boats, cars, and aircraft I have not ever see motor mount made of wire mesh.
Being metal has a fatigue cycle I do have the question of longevity.
But it may, in fact, be the greatest idea that has come along in a while.
I hope someone writes up a report at some point here.
 

Last edited by Kingglide549; Jan 29, 2019 at 06:59 AM.
Reply
Old Jan 29, 2019 | 01:22 PM
  #74  
0maha's Avatar
0maha
Seasoned HDF Member
10 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
Joined: Nov 2012
Posts: 6,555
Likes: 4,797
From: Omaha
Default

Yeah, I'm curious how those work.

They say they offer both spring and damping effects, just like a rubber/neoprene/unobtanium mount.

I get the spring part. That's how steel works.

I don't get the damping part. Seems like the only place that could come from would be as friction between the wires that are spooled up inside it. Friction = wear.

Maybe that is understood. The rubber ones don't last forever, either.
 
Reply
Old Feb 1, 2019 | 08:34 PM
  #75  
1997bagger's Avatar
1997bagger
Seasoned HDF Member
15 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
Joined: Aug 2008
Posts: 5,079
Likes: 2,151
From: Ohio
Default

Deleted
 

Last edited by 1997bagger; Feb 1, 2019 at 09:06 PM.
Reply
Old Feb 8, 2019 | 04:54 PM
  #76  
guido4198's Avatar
guido4198
Thread Starter
|
Grand HDF Member
15 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
Joined: Aug 2008
Posts: 3,599
Likes: 9,913
From: Florida's gorgeous East coast
Default

After several conversations and emails with Harry at Kinetic Structures I put one of the mesh front motor mounts on the Moonraker today. She’s a 1985 FXRS with a 1999 motor. I actually purchased the mount from Frank at Dirty Customz ( they have a website). Harry had warned me that he’s not a “ bike guy” and that Frank was experienced with the mount. I’m not much of a wrench and thought it best to go with someone who has hands-on bike experience, especially with FXR’s. Installation was straightforward and went without issues. Took a short ride to let things “ settle in” then re-checked tightness and torque on all the critical fasteners. Everything checked out fine so I took her out for a quick 100 mile hop to get a feel for how the mount responds. No “ hi-performance handling “ was involved beyond cornering through the neighborhood. Put her on I-95 and ran a while. I’m pleased with the results. I should add that any time spent at less than 2000 rpms is just “ passing thru”. I never run down there. 3000 rpms, 70-75 mph was great. Seat-feet-and mirrors. All good. 80-85 the seat and feet were good but mirrors weren’t much use. Interestingly... there’s another “ smooth node” as I approached 4000 rpms but by then I was running 90 or so and there were too many Representatives of Florida law enforcement out there to keep that up.
As I said, I’m pleased. Looking forward to some longer rides real soon, then we’ll see how long it holds up over time and miles.
 
Reply
Old Jul 18, 2019 | 03:54 PM
  #77  
Beemervet's Avatar
Beemervet
Ultimate HDF Member
Veteran: Army
Joined: May 2006
Posts: 6,590
Likes: 444
From: Ohio
Default

How about an update on your new mount? Still pleased?
 
Reply
Old Jul 19, 2019 | 06:20 AM
  #78  
guido4198's Avatar
guido4198
Thread Starter
|
Grand HDF Member
15 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
Joined: Aug 2008
Posts: 3,599
Likes: 9,913
From: Florida's gorgeous East coast
Default

Originally Posted by Beemervet
How about an update on your new mount? Still pleased?
Sure thing, here ya go:
I've run the new Kinetic Structures mesh front motor mount 6,000 mi since putting it on the bike. That includes the ride to D.C. for Rolling Thunder (2,000mi roundtrip) where I did a LOT of 80-90 mph riding on I-95.
NO issues, still very satisfied.
Hope this helps.
 
Reply
HD Forum Stories

The Best of Harley-Davidson for Lifelong Riders

story-0

7 Times Harley-Davidson Chucked Tradition Out the Window

 Verdad Gallardo
story-1

7 Surprising Harley-Davidson Products that Are Not Motorcycles

 Verdad Gallardo
story-2

8 Best Harley-Davidson Motorcycles Ever

 Pouria Savadkouei
story-3

10 Worst Harley-Davidson Motorcycles Ever

 Pouria Savadkouei
story-4

Killer Custom's Jail Break Is The Breakout That Refused to Blend In

 Verdad Gallardo
story-5

Crazy Bunderbike Build Looks Amazing, But Is It Impossible to Ride?

 Verdad Gallardo
story-6

Harley-Davidson Reveals Super Cool Cafe Racer Concept

 Verdad Gallardo
story-7

Engraved Rebellion: Inside Bundnerbike's Glam Rock II

 Verdad Gallardo
story-8

10 Motorcycles You Should Never Buy

 Joe Kucinski
story-9

10 Things Harley-Davidson Needs to Fix in 2026

 Verdad Gallardo
Old Jul 22, 2019 | 06:29 PM
  #79  
nibroc's Avatar
nibroc
Road Warrior
15 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
Joined: Dec 2007
Posts: 1,610
Likes: 241
From: the 'ville' kentucky
Default

thanks for that update
 
Reply
Old Jul 24, 2019 | 06:06 AM
  #80  
Mattbastard's Avatar
Mattbastard
Grand HDF Member
Veteran: Air Force
15 Year Member
Liked
Top Answer: 3
Joined: Nov 2009
Posts: 4,315
Likes: 1,663
From: Tampa
Default

Glad it's working out for you. Personally I think it's an answer to a question nobody asked but to each, his own.
 
Reply
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
dports70
EVO
12
Sep 29, 2017 05:09 AM
davic666
Custom Models
2
May 14, 2017 07:02 AM
atengnr
Shovelhead
3
Apr 20, 2016 09:31 PM
lurchus
EVO
3
May 7, 2011 04:45 PM
89 FXRS
EVO
14
Dec 17, 2007 12:48 PM




All times are GMT -5. The time now is 04:19 AM.

story-0
7 Times Harley-Davidson Chucked Tradition Out the Window

Slideshow: Harley-Davidson built its reputation on nostalgia, but every so often, the company took a hard left turn into the future.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-20 11:18:19


VIEW MORE
story-1
7 Surprising Harley-Davidson Products that Are Not Motorcycles

Slideshow: The bar-and-shield logo shows up on far more than motorcycles, some of the company's most unexpected products have nothing to do with riding.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-04-29 16:50:35


VIEW MORE
story-2
8 Best Harley-Davidson Motorcycles Ever

Slideshow: Not every Harley gets it right, but these are the ones that genuinely earned their reputation.

By Pouria Savadkouei | 2026-04-15 14:23:21


VIEW MORE
story-3
10 Worst Harley-Davidson Motorcycles Ever

Slideshow: From the troubled AMF years to modern misfires, these bikes earned reputations for reliability issues, questionable engineering, or disappointing performance.

By Pouria Savadkouei | 2026-04-01 20:01:09


VIEW MORE
story-4
Killer Custom's Jail Break Is The Breakout That Refused to Blend In

Slideshow: Killer Custom's "Jail Breaker" build focuses more on stance and visual aggression than mechanical overhaul.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-03-18 19:20:32


VIEW MORE
story-5
Crazy Bunderbike Build Looks Amazing, But Is It Impossible to Ride?

Slideshow: The Swiss custom shop has taken a Harley Softail and stretched it into something so long and low that it looks closer to a rolling sculpture than a conventional motorcycle.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-03-07 16:15:30


VIEW MORE
story-6
Harley-Davidson Reveals Super Cool Cafe Racer Concept

Slideshow: Harley-Davidson's new RMCR concept revives the café racer formula with modern hardware-and it may be exactly the reset the company needs.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-03-04 12:23:37


VIEW MORE
story-7
Engraved Rebellion: Inside Bundnerbike's Glam Rock II

Slideshow: A standard cruiser becomes an intricate metal canvas in the hands of a Swiss custom house known for pushing Harley-Davidson platforms far beyond their factory brief.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-02-24 18:19:44


VIEW MORE
story-8
10 Motorcycles You Should Never Buy

Slideshow: There is no shortage of great motorcycles to buy, but we would avoid these ten.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-02-19 14:50:51


VIEW MORE
story-9
10 Things Harley-Davidson Needs to Fix in 2026

Slideshow: Harley-Davidson's challenges aren't abstract; they show up in dropping shipments, shrinking dealer traffic, and strategic decisions that aren't yet translating into growth.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-01-13 18:33:17


VIEW MORE