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Old Sep 9, 2019 | 06:59 AM
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I just picked up a 94 fxr that’s been sitting a while. When I got it home, it had no rear brake. I bled it with dot 5 and all was well until it got hot. After a couple of miles the brake seized up. I figured there must be moisture in the system, so I bled it again with the same results. Finally, I ran denatured alcohol through it and bled it with dot 5. It seemed fine last night but tightened up as I got to work again this morning. What am I missing here? The caliper retracts when it cools. Does that mean the master is bad? The first time I noticed it, sunlight was enough to put drag on the rear wheel. Any help would be appreciated.
 
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Old Sep 9, 2019 | 07:43 AM
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The caliper retracts when it cools. Does that mean the master is bad?.
If the piston in the master doesn't return all the way it can cause this...the master can be "bad" and cause this...crack the bleeder...if that releases the pressure you have some issue with the master...

If cracking the bleeder does nothing...you have an issue with e caliper...
 
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Old Sep 9, 2019 | 07:51 AM
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That has worked so far.
 
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Old Sep 9, 2019 | 07:53 AM
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I just went thru this with an 88 sportser that was sitting for a while, rear brake would lock up the master cylinder was caked up with gunk I rebuilt the master cylinder and the rear caliper installed a new brake line and pads everything is fine now.
My approach would be to check the entire system that crud will infiltrate the entire system
 
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Old Sep 9, 2019 | 07:59 AM
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Do the pads have plenty of wear left on them? Are they flat, not tapered from one end to the other. If not, the piston could be toward its limit of travel or it gets forced crooked in the bore and locked up. Heat may play a role in that it changes the tolerances just enough, due to expansion, that the problem shows up.

If the pads are good, then the next step may be to rebuild the caliper and inspect the bore and piston. I really don't see how the master could do it unless the piston in the master gets stuck when you apply the brakes, and I would think that would be obvious as the pedal would change feel the next time you push it down.

The crud in the system is a definite possibility as well.
 
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Old Sep 9, 2019 | 08:26 AM
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I’ll have to take a look at the pads. One thing I wish I had checked was pedal travel. The brake pedal gets very stiff. I haven’t checked to see if it’s in the up position or hasn’t returned from the last press. I think I’ll rebuild the master and caliper and get new pads. This bike sat for a long time before I got it Friday.
 
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Old Sep 9, 2019 | 09:02 AM
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Originally Posted by mplecha
I think I’ll rebuild the master and caliper and get new pads. This bike sat for a long time before I got it Friday.
That's the way to go, right there.

I'd replace the lines (reservoir to MC, MC to caliper) as well.
 
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Is there a way I could find the line length without removing them? I’d like to order parts today, but it’s my ride home.
 
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Before you reassemble your brake system make sure your rotor is still flat.
Seizing brakes can overheat the rotor and cause it to warp.
 
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Old Sep 9, 2019 | 09:43 AM
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Originally Posted by Tom84FXST
If the piston in the master doesn't return all the way it can cause this...the master can be "bad" and cause this...crack the bleeder...if that releases the pressure you have some issue with the master...

If cracking the bleeder does nothing...you have an issue with e caliper...
Air in the line, when the air warms up it expands, applying pressure on the brake, the more it apply's pressure the hotter the brake system gets, the more it puts pressure on the brakes.....
 
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