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Old Apr 28, 2024 | 04:23 PM
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Any chance their might be something inducing voltage into the harness.

As in a plug wire tie wrapped to a part of wiring. I figure you know better 98 hotrod.

Saw that problem in a few Caddys back in the day

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Originally Posted by Max Headflow
A zener won't do it.. Their input impedance to too high. Heavy duty ones will will likely have too slow of a response.. Got an oscilloscope?

Can you figure out when the voltage jumps?
No, no scope.. Also there is no regular repetition.. RPM's make no difference idle/cruise.. It still happens..
 
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Old Apr 28, 2024 | 05:41 PM
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Any chance their might be something inducing voltage into the harness.

As in a plug wire tie wrapped to a part of wiring. I figure you know better 98 hotrod.

Saw that problem in a few Caddys back in the day

Best of Luck Sir
I guess at this point anything's possible.. I know the wires aren't that new so maybe I'll go that route...
 
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Old Apr 28, 2024 | 05:57 PM
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Originally Posted by 98hotrodfatboy
No, no scope.. Also there is no regular repetition.. RPM's make no difference idle/cruise.. It still happens..
So you haven't tried a 3rd regulator?

Maybe pull all the fuses except the ones needed to run the bike and see if the issue still occurs. Use external solenoid button.

You are using a voltmeter with min/max measurements. Which one? Model #? Try a different one.. If the measurement wires are long, twist them together.
 
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Old Apr 28, 2024 | 05:58 PM
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Originally Posted by 98hotrodfatboy
I guess at this point anything's possible.. I know the wires aren't that new so maybe I'll go that route...
You said you did a Sportster module but made no mention of the coil other than the guy had some dual fires. Did you put on a dual fire with the Sportster module?

And you've not said what brand the two regs were and whether the one off the shelf that you've tried was new
 

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Old Apr 28, 2024 | 06:45 PM
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I can send a new ultama k modual to try its no biggy
 
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Originally Posted by Max Headflow
So you haven't tried a 3rd regulator?

Maybe pull all the fuses except the ones needed to run the bike and see if the issue still occurs. Use external solenoid button.

You are using a voltmeter with min/max measurements. Which one? Model #? Try a different one.. If the measurement wires are long, twist them together.
No have not tried a third regulator.. First one was a cycle electric and the second one was new but a cheap knock off..

I will try eliminating circuits to see if it makes any difference..

Fluke 73.. as random as it is I did not see it on the Fluke..


Originally Posted by t150vej
You said you did a Sportster module but made no mention of the coil other than the guy had some dual fires. Did you put on a dual fire with the Sportster module?

And you've not said what brand the two regs were and whether the one off the shelf that you've tried was new
Yes new Dual fire with the Sportster module.. Still had the same issue..

I'll take a look at the plug wires.. At this point I Guess anything is possible.. I just might order a new regulator but not sure it'll fix it..
The worst part of all of this is I lost my job from Brookhaven National lab again.. This is the second time they terminated me.. The place is ruthless..
I was looking at properties in North Carolina for retirement.. I Guess that's not happening any time soon..
 

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I can send a new ultama k modual to try its no biggy
Thanks John, I appreciate the offer.. Does it have voltage spike protection? Or is there a way to protect it?
 
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Old Apr 28, 2024 | 07:25 PM
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Originally Posted by 98hotrodfatboy
No have not tried a third regulator.. First one was a cycle electric and the second one was new but a cheap knock off..

I will try eliminating circuits to see if it makes any difference..

Fluke 73.. as random as it is I did not see it on the Fluke..
Then what did you see the overvoltage on?
 
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Originally Posted by Max Headflow
Then what did you see the overvoltage on?
I saw it on the display of my dakota digital speedometer.. It has many functions and when I see the high voltage there is a battery icon that also flashes.. It's pretty quick so I'm surprised that I can see it on a digital gauge.. Don't have an analog anymore..
 

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