1991 EVO
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UPDATE!!!!!!!!........I got a call about 10 am and the tech from the dealer said I've got both good and bad news....Good news is the tranny is fine. Bad news is when I looked at the engine I noticed the crank bearing? was moving out. Come on up and I'll show you. So I take off up there and he shows me this bearing that looks like the inside is pushing out and it's on the crank. He says it might last 40k more miles or it might go out tomorrow. He says he'll fix it but he's gotta take the whole thing down and have someone else put this bearing or maybe the race on the crank. He says it'll need a rebuild and it'll be about 1800 dollars. I asked him about other options and he says there's not any other than I could put it back cross my fingers and consider trading in or selling. Well my concious wouldn't let me do that so I told him to build it. He say's I'll get it back in 1 - 2 weeks and I'll have a fresh motor. He says my cam looks good and I shouldn't change it unless I wanted something different. He told me what I have (sh 21 or something) I was so upset I can't remember. Anyway I'll have more invested than I could ever think about getting back but I'll be riding with a new motor. Any advice?
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Wrknman, I have been following this thread as I have a 89 with about 43,000. I haven't had the problems yet, but this has been informative. My suggestion is to pay it, then ride it, read your manual, do your own maintenance and ENJOY. That bike could last you another 100,000 with the rebuild and proper care and feeding. There'ssomething about working on your own bike and keeping the older ones running that make it worth it.
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Thanks man. I guess you're right, it's just frustrating knowing that I have more invested than it's worth........It's a nice bike and they don't make em' like that anymore. I'll keep ya'll posted.
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RE: 1991 EVO
Wrknman,
That's a real bummer! Ok, got it...you are getting the bottom end rebuild for $1800. It's majorwork. Since you are dropping some money, here is something to think about.
Option 1. Do th harley remanufactured engine. Costs a little more $2,000 to $2,200, but they take your motor and bring it back to factory spec. TheWHOLE engine.Ask your dealer about it. Read article:
http://www.hotbikeweb.com/tech/0710_...ons/index.html
Option 2. Buy a brand new Evo engine from Harley ~$2500 or less depends on where you go. Put thatengine in your bike and sell your current engine to recoup the cost, or keep it and rebuild it when you have some cash.
These are the twooptions that I would take if in your position.I'm just giving you something to think about, because we are all working stiffs and don't have money falling out ofour pockets. Your call. Good luck.
dave
That's a real bummer! Ok, got it...you are getting the bottom end rebuild for $1800. It's majorwork. Since you are dropping some money, here is something to think about.
Option 1. Do th harley remanufactured engine. Costs a little more $2,000 to $2,200, but they take your motor and bring it back to factory spec. TheWHOLE engine.Ask your dealer about it. Read article:
http://www.hotbikeweb.com/tech/0710_...ons/index.html
Option 2. Buy a brand new Evo engine from Harley ~$2500 or less depends on where you go. Put thatengine in your bike and sell your current engine to recoup the cost, or keep it and rebuild it when you have some cash.
These are the twooptions that I would take if in your position.I'm just giving you something to think about, because we are all working stiffs and don't have money falling out ofour pockets. Your call. Good luck.
dave
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RE: 1991 EVO
ORIGINAL: wrknman
grbrown, when this thing is all over I want to talk to you about that fairing on your bike. If I got any pennies left I want one. Something to hide the dash on mine; it sucks.
grbrown, when this thing is all over I want to talk to you about that fairing on your bike. If I got any pennies left I want one. Something to hide the dash on mine; it sucks.
It is an early 80s FLH glassfibre batwing I bought secondhand, mounted on brackets my brother made, repainted. This is what it looked like in Michigan in 2003, while we were over for Harley's Centenary. We were proud of our US and Canadian flies! Other photo is more recent, back home with swish new lights and a bit cleaner, with a few UK flies.
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Hi w!
Other photo is more recent, new lights and cleaner.
ORIGINAL: wrknman
grbrown, when this thing is all over I want to talk to you about that fairing on your bike. If I got any pennies left I want one. Something to hide the dash on mine; it sucks.
grbrown, when this thing is all over I want to talk to you about that fairing on your bike. If I got any pennies left I want one. Something to hide the dash on mine; it sucks.
Other photo is more recent, new lights and cleaner.
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RE: 1991 EVO
ORIGINAL: slush
Wrknman, I have been following this thread as I have a 89 with about 43,000. I haven't had the problems yet, but this has been informative. My suggestion is to pay it, then ride it, read your manual, do your own maintenance and ENJOY. That bike could last you another 100,000 with the rebuild and proper care and feeding. There'ssomething about working on your own bike and keeping the older ones running that make it worth it.
Wrknman, I have been following this thread as I have a 89 with about 43,000. I haven't had the problems yet, but this has been informative. My suggestion is to pay it, then ride it, read your manual, do your own maintenance and ENJOY. That bike could last you another 100,000 with the rebuild and proper care and feeding. There'ssomething about working on your own bike and keeping the older ones running that make it worth it.
Another option is after-market cases, which may be cheaper than factory ones. But I am now psyching myself up into a new motor! S&S V107T tops the list at present. A 3 year warranty helps and there is an S&S dealer here in the UK.
For the record, my researches suggest that around 1988 Evos showed problems with the main coming adrift (it is mounted in a steel insert in the aluminium casting). Wasn't sorted out for several years. The casting is also thin around the front cylinderspigot and cylinder studs have been known to pull out, especially on tuned motors (which mine is). I feel I am sitting on a time bomb!
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RE: 1991 EVO
Wrknman,
I was in the same boat that you are. I bought the bike last spring and put 5000 miles on it and the lower end let go. It had an S&S 96" motor and it was a92 Fatboy that is in my sig. Was going to cost me $2000 to get it backup and running. I thought about it for a week and decided just to get a new motor.I figured I was half way theremoney wise already. Found a good deal from Jireh Cycles and bought a 113" Ultima. Motor Cost me $3700 deliveredplus installation. Boughtanew outer primary cover, mirrors, grips, and whatever else it needed. $4500 later it was up and running and I hope it will last me a long time. Bike is not worth what I have into it but I do like the looks of the bike and the power. I do not have a ton of money and was not what I had in mind to spend my money on. $2500 is a good price for a new Evo motor and is worth a thought in going that way and selling your old motor to recoup some of the cost. Listen to the people on this forum as there is a ton of knowledge to help you. Good luck to you in your decision and please keep us informed as to the result.
I was in the same boat that you are. I bought the bike last spring and put 5000 miles on it and the lower end let go. It had an S&S 96" motor and it was a92 Fatboy that is in my sig. Was going to cost me $2000 to get it backup and running. I thought about it for a week and decided just to get a new motor.I figured I was half way theremoney wise already. Found a good deal from Jireh Cycles and bought a 113" Ultima. Motor Cost me $3700 deliveredplus installation. Boughtanew outer primary cover, mirrors, grips, and whatever else it needed. $4500 later it was up and running and I hope it will last me a long time. Bike is not worth what I have into it but I do like the looks of the bike and the power. I do not have a ton of money and was not what I had in mind to spend my money on. $2500 is a good price for a new Evo motor and is worth a thought in going that way and selling your old motor to recoup some of the cost. Listen to the people on this forum as there is a ton of knowledge to help you. Good luck to you in your decision and please keep us informed as to the result.
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RE: 1991 EVO
If you have auto experience, take it down to the left case, nothing you can't handle. Take the case and 2 bearings/clips to a decent machine shop and have them press the bearings and crank for you. That's the only procedure you don't want to attempt in your garage. The rest is simple reassembly, any manual will do. If you've ever rebuilt a V8, the Evo is a snap. You'll save big $ this way. If you trust your dealer, have him install the bearings/crank. Good luck.
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Thanks again evry'body. I think I'm gonna just let the dealer do it. I will call and ask about the reman tho. I feel pretty good about their engine guy doin' it. I've heard great things about him (he's a racer). I will ask him about a warranty (I forgot to do that).
One thing that concerned me that he said tho: He's gonna tack weld my new bearing to the crank so it can't slide in the future. Wouldn't that run a risk of also tacking the ***** inside the bearing?.... Just a thought..... Any damage? He's a reputable engine man in the area. I guess he know's best, heck thats why he has it.
Oh, another thing he showed me: the gaskets he tore off were hard and brittle. Just like you would expect on a 91 model. All execpt the cam cover gasket. He tells me it's been off in the past year or so. He also said whoever took this off should've noticed this bearing sliding. He saidhe would've! If he'd been in there. Now according to my BUDDY this dealer is the only one ever in there.....hhhmmmmmm?
One thing that concerned me that he said tho: He's gonna tack weld my new bearing to the crank so it can't slide in the future. Wouldn't that run a risk of also tacking the ***** inside the bearing?.... Just a thought..... Any damage? He's a reputable engine man in the area. I guess he know's best, heck thats why he has it.
Oh, another thing he showed me: the gaskets he tore off were hard and brittle. Just like you would expect on a 91 model. All execpt the cam cover gasket. He tells me it's been off in the past year or so. He also said whoever took this off should've noticed this bearing sliding. He saidhe would've! If he'd been in there. Now according to my BUDDY this dealer is the only one ever in there.....hhhmmmmmm?