Will not start
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anything electrical can cause stupid gremlins that you chase around in circles. I went thru a crane and dyna coil on my old superglide before putting a whole ultima ignition on it, and never looked back, also the oil pump is fairly straightfoward, although you will have to prime the pump, or it wont see any oil pressure. chad.
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It has got to be an intermittent ignition module or coil. I ordered the DYNA 2KI kit from Eastern Performance Motorcycle parts due to their affordable price compared to the local shops at a $200 savings and free shipping.
So again I am stuck on 4 wheels until I get the ignition/coil kit, looks I may end up getting the oil pump and ign kit around the same time frame, so I will be busy tackling those tasks. I may need some coaching in the process as I have never done either of the two.
So again I am stuck on 4 wheels until I get the ignition/coil kit, looks I may end up getting the oil pump and ign kit around the same time frame, so I will be busy tackling those tasks. I may need some coaching in the process as I have never done either of the two.
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Mr39,
Take the plug out and put it in the plug wire and set the end of the plug on the head like you were testing it for spark.
Turn the lights down and have someone turn the ignition on while you look up close at the plug. If you get *1* faint spark when you turn the switch on, then I think it's the cam sensor. (Other wise call the pick-up coil)
I had a similar experience. No spark. Bought new coil. No dice. Borrowed a known working ignition module. No dice. Bought the cam sensor and in 20mins had it running.
Take the plug out and put it in the plug wire and set the end of the plug on the head like you were testing it for spark.
Turn the lights down and have someone turn the ignition on while you look up close at the plug. If you get *1* faint spark when you turn the switch on, then I think it's the cam sensor. (Other wise call the pick-up coil)
I had a similar experience. No spark. Bought new coil. No dice. Borrowed a known working ignition module. No dice. Bought the cam sensor and in 20mins had it running.
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When I was going though my problem, I was told by many mechanics that the coils rarely go bad. I borrowed a known good coil and ignition module. installed them one at a time.
If it starts you know that that is your problem.
If you eliminate the coil and the module, the only thing left is the cam sensor.
(taking for granted that the plugs and wires are good. and that there is power to the coil)
If it starts you know that that is your problem.
If you eliminate the coil and the module, the only thing left is the cam sensor.
(taking for granted that the plugs and wires are good. and that there is power to the coil)
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Do all evo's have a cam position sensor? I was informed mine may have it built in to HI-4 ignition module and if that is case I need to replace the module. Today I bought a new coil thinking it was the cause, but that's not it. Fortunately the shop I bought it at knows me & refunded my purchase. If it does have a separate cam position sensor, wat does it look like, I take it it would be in the cam cover behind the ignition module mounting plate?
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hcochoa is dead on, aside from plugs and wires, there are only three parts to your ignition system, coil, module, pick up in the cam cover. all 3 can go bad at any time, i believe you can test all three, i know there are test to coil and pick up, not so sure about the module, id have to look in the service manual. so since you replaced the coil, and that didnt cure it, you only have the module and pick up left......so id look at those. if your tired of dicking with it, jireh sells a complete single fire kit for 169 bux, that would guarantee you fix it... hope that helps in some capacity. chad.
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The cam sensor is inside the cone on your right hand side. Drill out the rivets and then two phillips screws takes the second cover off.
Inside there, there are two threaded posts that hold both the second cover and the cam sensor.
I am not 100% sure if all HDs have this but I think they do. You either have points or camsensor.
Inside there, there are two threaded posts that hold both the second cover and the cam sensor.
I am not 100% sure if all HDs have this but I think they do. You either have points or camsensor.
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"behind the ignition module mounting plate"
Huh?? The ignition module is on the frame next to the front forks in front of the tank on the left side.
The cam sensor on the right side of the motor in the timing cone.
Huh?? The ignition module is on the frame next to the front forks in front of the tank on the left side.
The cam sensor on the right side of the motor in the timing cone.
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MP, I came close to calling down the other poster(s) for not having read the thread enough to see you have a Crane HI-4 which is totally self contained in the nose cone with no other component necessary other than the coil.
Yes, stock, SE or some aftermarket setups have a timing sensor in the nose cone, module on the frame and coil (3 pieces) but not yours. The timing sensor and module are contained in the single nose cone unit.
Yes, stock, SE or some aftermarket setups have a timing sensor in the nose cone, module on the frame and coil (3 pieces) but not yours. The timing sensor and module are contained in the single nose cone unit.