EVO All Evo Model Discussion

Rear cylincer not firing

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Jul 12, 2010 | 09:06 AM
  #1  
gutz63's Avatar
gutz63
Thread Starter
|
Novice
Joined: Oct 2009
Posts: 16
Likes: 0
Default Rear cylincer not firing

Only been riding my first bike an 87 FXRS Lowrider for 6 months. Rear cylinder stopped firing. Followed the manual troubleshooting procedures and they pointed to the coils which are Dyna Coil dual plug single fire. I swapped them (wiring and all) and the "bad" coil still fired the front cylinder. The plug in the rear cylinder is not firing, there is no current passing through the plug wires to the rear. There is 12.3v-14.15v going to the coil depending on which of the wires I test going to the coil and the jumper is good. If any one can help I would greatly appreciate it. I gotta get back on the road!
 
Reply
Old Jul 12, 2010 | 09:18 AM
  #2  
crusader1xxx's Avatar
crusader1xxx
Road Master
Joined: Aug 2008
Posts: 1,246
Likes: 251
From: Belle River Ontario
Default

It sounds like there is a bad wire somewhere. It could be as simple as a bad plug wire. If the coil is working fine, then the problem is in the wiring going to the coil. I would look for a loose or corroded wire. With a single fire system you have two coils, one for each cyl. They should have lead wires going to them. At the end of the day you may need to go over the whole system from the points cover to the ignition moduel.

Hope this helps, wiring is a bitch...
 
Reply
Old Jul 12, 2010 | 07:05 PM
  #3  
miacycles's Avatar
miacycles
Elite HDF Member
Joined: Sep 2007
Posts: 4,468
Likes: 12
From: Bluffton, South Carolina
Default

You have two wires going to each coil. one is power (12V) and the other is the impulse from the ignition. Perhaps the impulse wire is bad or the ignition is failing. Hope this helps.
 
Reply
Old Jul 12, 2010 | 08:31 PM
  #4  
gutz63's Avatar
gutz63
Thread Starter
|
Novice
Joined: Oct 2009
Posts: 16
Likes: 0
Default Definatly an electrical issue

Yes there are 2 wires coming in to each coil and a jumper between the two coils and I have tested and comfirmed that each wire coming in has between 12.4v-14.5v, when running off the front cylinder, and the jumper is good. I also tested between the box behind the timing cover with the LED and the coils and I have continuity between every where it should be. Do you know how I test the pulse comming in to the coil controling the rear cylinder? Could I have a timing issue? Could I have a bad timing senser even though I have power going to the coil? It is an electro magnetic pick up (so to speek) being read by the revolution of the engine right? IE the "Pulse" you are refuring to.
 
Reply
Old Jul 13, 2010 | 03:25 AM
  #5  
t150vej's Avatar
t150vej
HDF Community Team
20 Year Member
Community Favorite
Top Answer: 3
Joined: Dec 2005
Posts: 5,422
Likes: 2,621
From: NC USA
Default

We don't know what module you're running and they have different settings (and personalities) but try removing the pulse wire from the coil going to the rear and jump the pulse wire for the front cylinder to it. That will make it a dual fire (both coils fire every stroke) and see if you get spark then. If you do, that would point to the module being the culprit. You get into resistance/ohm/load issues and probably shouldn't run it like that for any time other test pusposes.
 
Reply
Old Jul 13, 2010 | 03:38 AM
  #6  
96roadking's Avatar
96roadking
Outstanding HDF Member
Joined: Mar 2010
Posts: 2,877
Likes: 2
From: Hallsville, Tx.
Default

you could try calling Dyna, talk to a tech guy. I don't have experience with their support, but if they like business, they should help you out.
 
Reply
Old Jul 13, 2010 | 01:38 PM
  #7  
miacycles's Avatar
miacycles
Elite HDF Member
Joined: Sep 2007
Posts: 4,468
Likes: 12
From: Bluffton, South Carolina
Default

The jumper wire iss the 12 V ignition wire, it should be switched and go on and off with the ignition and kill switch. the other wire would be the inpulse from the ignition. The modules do go bad, we had one that was firing but no advance to the rear cylinder. We noticed it when we had the bike on the dyno, HPand torque was down and one cylinder had a perfect A/F ratio and the other was way off. This should be impossible with an EVO style manifold. so we checked the advance in both cylinders and viola there it was.
 
Reply
Old Jul 13, 2010 | 09:41 PM
  #8  
gutz63's Avatar
gutz63
Thread Starter
|
Novice
Joined: Oct 2009
Posts: 16
Likes: 0
Default

Connected the jumper and tested the the plug wires with one of those high speed RPM pulse testers and an automotive meter and they all tested good. So you were right. The module is bad thanks guys for the advice you saved me a lot of time and money.
 
Reply
HD Forum Stories

The Best of Harley-Davidson for Lifelong Riders

story-0

7 Times Harley-Davidson Chucked Tradition Out the Window

 Verdad Gallardo
story-1

7 Surprising Harley-Davidson Products that Are Not Motorcycles

 Verdad Gallardo
story-2

8 Best Harley-Davidson Motorcycles Ever

 Pouria Savadkouei
story-3

10 Worst Harley-Davidson Motorcycles Ever

 Pouria Savadkouei
story-4

Killer Custom's Jail Break Is The Breakout That Refused to Blend In

 Verdad Gallardo
story-5

Crazy Bunderbike Build Looks Amazing, But Is It Impossible to Ride?

 Verdad Gallardo
story-6

Harley-Davidson Reveals Super Cool Cafe Racer Concept

 Verdad Gallardo
story-7

Engraved Rebellion: Inside Bundnerbike's Glam Rock II

 Verdad Gallardo
story-8

10 Motorcycles You Should Never Buy

 Joe Kucinski
story-9

10 Things Harley-Davidson Needs to Fix in 2026

 Verdad Gallardo
Old Jul 15, 2010 | 03:49 PM
  #9  
ozzie65's Avatar
ozzie65
Cruiser
Joined: Aug 2007
Posts: 131
Likes: 0
From:
Default

I am having a similar issue. Started about a week ago, I will be riding along and power drops, like it is running on one cylinder only. I thought it was bad plugs (15000 mies) Put in new plugs, and still experiencing the same problem. I am running the original ignition system (with a new coil, wires etc)
I am guessing that after nearly 25 years, 63000 miles that my ignition may be starting to get flaky.
 
Reply
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
TheShadow619
Ignition/Tuner/ECM/Fuel Injection
11
Jul 21, 2017 10:03 PM
88sNuff4me
Ignition/Tuner/ECM/Fuel Injection
4
Jun 17, 2015 06:48 PM
CaptainCalf
Sportster Models
4
Nov 12, 2012 02:33 PM
dts
Ignition/Tuner/ECM/Fuel Injection
7
Aug 17, 2007 06:15 PM
HokieHarley
Softail Models
4
Jun 11, 2006 12:52 AM




All times are GMT -5. The time now is 08:21 PM.

story-0
7 Times Harley-Davidson Chucked Tradition Out the Window

Slideshow: Harley-Davidson built its reputation on nostalgia, but every so often, the company took a hard left turn into the future.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-20 11:18:19


VIEW MORE
story-1
7 Surprising Harley-Davidson Products that Are Not Motorcycles

Slideshow: The bar-and-shield logo shows up on far more than motorcycles, some of the company's most unexpected products have nothing to do with riding.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-04-29 16:50:35


VIEW MORE
story-2
8 Best Harley-Davidson Motorcycles Ever

Slideshow: Not every Harley gets it right, but these are the ones that genuinely earned their reputation.

By Pouria Savadkouei | 2026-04-15 14:23:21


VIEW MORE
story-3
10 Worst Harley-Davidson Motorcycles Ever

Slideshow: From the troubled AMF years to modern misfires, these bikes earned reputations for reliability issues, questionable engineering, or disappointing performance.

By Pouria Savadkouei | 2026-04-01 20:01:09


VIEW MORE
story-4
Killer Custom's Jail Break Is The Breakout That Refused to Blend In

Slideshow: Killer Custom's "Jail Breaker" build focuses more on stance and visual aggression than mechanical overhaul.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-03-18 19:20:32


VIEW MORE
story-5
Crazy Bunderbike Build Looks Amazing, But Is It Impossible to Ride?

Slideshow: The Swiss custom shop has taken a Harley Softail and stretched it into something so long and low that it looks closer to a rolling sculpture than a conventional motorcycle.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-03-07 16:15:30


VIEW MORE
story-6
Harley-Davidson Reveals Super Cool Cafe Racer Concept

Slideshow: Harley-Davidson's new RMCR concept revives the café racer formula with modern hardware-and it may be exactly the reset the company needs.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-03-04 12:23:37


VIEW MORE
story-7
Engraved Rebellion: Inside Bundnerbike's Glam Rock II

Slideshow: A standard cruiser becomes an intricate metal canvas in the hands of a Swiss custom house known for pushing Harley-Davidson platforms far beyond their factory brief.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-02-24 18:19:44


VIEW MORE
story-8
10 Motorcycles You Should Never Buy

Slideshow: There is no shortage of great motorcycles to buy, but we would avoid these ten.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-02-19 14:50:51


VIEW MORE
story-9
10 Things Harley-Davidson Needs to Fix in 2026

Slideshow: Harley-Davidson's challenges aren't abstract; they show up in dropping shipments, shrinking dealer traffic, and strategic decisions that aren't yet translating into growth.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-01-13 18:33:17


VIEW MORE