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Old Mar 12, 2014 | 08:50 AM
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Thanks Spanner and everyone's input. Helps to get other insight before spending HD$.
 
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Old Mar 12, 2014 | 09:24 AM
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I think the one advantage of the non-waste-spark systems is you can adjust the timing individually, at least with some systems. "I've heard" people say that retarding the rear cylinder 3 degrees is helpful. Never tried it myself, and that was with top fuel drag bikes, so may or may not apply to a street bike.
 
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Old Mar 12, 2014 | 09:52 AM
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Thanks Doc, the reason I brought this up was my timing is now fairly retarded to keep from a barely audible slight ping at 3000rpm under wot. My thought being with an adjustable ignition, I could get a more "advanced timing" with the adj timing curves.
 
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Old Mar 12, 2014 | 10:05 AM
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Well, depending on what you have now for an ignition and what you have done to the bike, that can lead to pinging. A fully programable ignition curve on a custom built high compression motor would be a good thing. You wouldn't necessarily need the individually fired stuff, just programable.
 
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Old Mar 12, 2014 | 10:21 AM
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I havnt really had a ping problem unless I try to advance the timing, then it's very minimal hardly audible. It's, 80", EV27, heads built & shaved, 10.1, Dyna S ignition. ETC.
So I believe the better adj ignition would be benefit. It runs great now but I think it can do better in terms of advancing without ping.
 
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Old Mar 12, 2014 | 10:42 AM
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That 10:1 on an air cooled motor can lead to pinging, certainly. Even the factory motors that were 10:1 pinged. Of course, premium gas only. Does that Dyna S use the VOES? Is that working? Are there different curves or retard settings available for that ignition?
 
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Old Mar 12, 2014 | 10:53 AM
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Well thank you for asking this question. I was thinking sorta of the same but on stock bike.

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Old Mar 12, 2014 | 10:59 AM
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Originally Posted by Dr.Hess
That 10:1 on an air cooled motor can lead to pinging, certainly. Even the factory motors that were 10:1 pinged. Of course, premium gas only. Does that Dyna S use the VOES? Is that working? Are there different curves or retard settings available for that ignition?
I only use premium gas and my Indy took off the VOES, said I didn't need it. I never get any ping below 3000 rpm so I don't think the Voes an issue. Idle & starts are great, Take off from dead stop is very quick, no stumble on throttle snap. The Dyna S has no adjustments besides rotating it Advance-retard.
 
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Old Mar 12, 2014 | 11:03 AM
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Originally Posted by Rabbito
Well thank you for asking this question. I was thinking sorta of the same but on stock bike.

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I think a stock engine you wont need an adjustable ignition. JMHO.
 
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Old Mar 12, 2014 | 11:14 AM
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I think with everything discussed, The adj. ignition could give me more advanced setting without the 3000 rpm jingle. which would squeeze better performance and a happier engine.
 
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