Air Cleaner 'Outer-Only' Covers?
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Air Cleaner 'Outer-Only' Covers?
I see that many of you use an air-cleaner cover that only covers the outer end of the Stage 1 filter element. These covers are usually trim covers/rings on the famous 'football.' I don't like the football shape (as many of you don't either), BUT since I live in SE Michigan and ride in all types of weather, including rain, my concern is that with only the end covered on the Stage 1 (K&N or similar) air-filter element, what about rain into the carb or EFI? Has anyone had a problem like this and what happens (in both the short term and long term)? To date, I've not seen an 'outer-only' cover in this area, and the one pictures on the forum are all from riders in warmer (southern) states.
I've been told that from a dyno standpoint that there is no difference between the 'football' and 'outer' cover only, but I've no data to confirm this comment.
BTW -- I also ride when temperatures drop into the low 30 deg F range but I doubt if that is a problem for this cover question. I also ride when it is 90+ deg F and the 'football' sucks hot air from the cylinders (so the 'outer-only' cover would appear to be a better idea then).
I've been told that from a dyno standpoint that there is no difference between the 'football' and 'outer' cover only, but I've no data to confirm this comment.
BTW -- I also ride when temperatures drop into the low 30 deg F range but I doubt if that is a problem for this cover question. I also ride when it is 90+ deg F and the 'football' sucks hot air from the cylinders (so the 'outer-only' cover would appear to be a better idea then).
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RE: Air Cleaner 'Outer-Only' Covers?
No problems rain or snow with the "round cover".
Have ridden in many thunderstorms (NE Wisconsin) where it was pouring buckets for hours - not even a single misfire.
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Did you ever consider an older style filter cover some of them are small round and cover just the air filter.I have seen them on E-Bay quite a bit and have considered doing that also.
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Denbo,
The answer to your question about eBay is yes and no. I've looked on eBay, but my previous experience there was not a good one. Although I did eventually get my money returned, I am very leery of eBay vendors, in spite of their 'goodness.' I'd rather find a new, from H-D, cover like the one from dchoran.
But thank you for your suggestion.
OneBlackFly
The answer to your question about eBay is yes and no. I've looked on eBay, but my previous experience there was not a good one. Although I did eventually get my money returned, I am very leery of eBay vendors, in spite of their 'goodness.' I'd rather find a new, from H-D, cover like the one from dchoran.
But thank you for your suggestion.
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I suggested e-bay only for the reason of that is where I saw that style air cleaner cover,I myself have had a few dealings on e-bay and have not been totally happy with maybe the exception of one transaction.
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This is a stock cover of my old '97 WG Evo. It's a simple bolt on swap for the football cover. I simpley powdercoated it, and added a differant trim ring. Cost me about $9. I even drilled some 3/4" holes in the bottom for better air flow.
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From: BOSTON originally / APPLETON WI now
RE: Air Cleaner 'Outer-Only' Covers?
Hey super fly,
That is a HD OEM Stage 1 setup.
The round chrome cover is HD OEM with a black SE HD ring attached via velcro.
So much better than that butt ugly football one.
Yes, it is just a K&N sticker - but it is the K&N HD-0800 filter.
That is way better than that paper SE filter. Have read that one literally can disintegrate.
Screamin' Eagle® Air Cleaner Insert - Twin Cam 88®
Add style to your motorcycle with these Screamin' Eagle® accessories, and
proclaim you're serious about performance.
This product is available in multiple variations. Be sure to look for the
one that fits the specific model and year of your motorcycle.
29567-99
Fits '99-'06 Twin Cam-equipped models.
Silver on Black
MSRP US $7.95
Nostalgic "Bar & Shield" Air Cleaner Cover for Evolution® 1340 - Round
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Collection - chrome-plated accessories featuring an original-style "Bar &
Shield" logo and a stamped "Made in the U.S.A." An easy-to-install trip down
memory lane, each piece is hand-polished and copper-plated, then buffed
again prior to adding layers of nickel and chrome. This triple-layer
treatment provides a brilliant finish. Includes a polished stainless steel
mounting screw.
This product is available in multiple variations. Be sure to look for the
one that fits the specific model and year of your motorcycle.
29138-91
Fits '90-'99 carbureted (CV) Evolution® 1340-equipped models. Also fits all
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Cleaners when installed with Gasket Kit P/N 29591-99 (sold separately)
MSRP US $45.95
That is a HD OEM Stage 1 setup.
The round chrome cover is HD OEM with a black SE HD ring attached via velcro.
So much better than that butt ugly football one.
Yes, it is just a K&N sticker - but it is the K&N HD-0800 filter.
That is way better than that paper SE filter. Have read that one literally can disintegrate.
Screamin' Eagle® Air Cleaner Insert - Twin Cam 88®
Add style to your motorcycle with these Screamin' Eagle® accessories, and
proclaim you're serious about performance.
This product is available in multiple variations. Be sure to look for the
one that fits the specific model and year of your motorcycle.
29567-99
Fits '99-'06 Twin Cam-equipped models.
Silver on Black
MSRP US $7.95
Nostalgic "Bar & Shield" Air Cleaner Cover for Evolution® 1340 - Round
Get a polished look with an extra dose of heritage with the Nostalgic
Collection - chrome-plated accessories featuring an original-style "Bar &
Shield" logo and a stamped "Made in the U.S.A." An easy-to-install trip down
memory lane, each piece is hand-polished and copper-plated, then buffed
again prior to adding layers of nickel and chrome. This triple-layer
treatment provides a brilliant finish. Includes a polished stainless steel
mounting screw.
This product is available in multiple variations. Be sure to look for the
one that fits the specific model and year of your motorcycle.
29138-91
Fits '90-'99 carbureted (CV) Evolution® 1340-equipped models. Also fits all
'99-later Twin Cam models equipped with Screamin' Eagle® High Flow Air
Cleaners when installed with Gasket Kit P/N 29591-99 (sold separately)
MSRP US $45.95
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RE: Air Cleaner 'Outer-Only' Covers?
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The new smooth air cleaner cover from H-D, part 29153-07, leave very little air space between the cover and K&N filter HD-0800. The only open space is at the cut-out, at the bottom of the cover. So as ugly as the 'football' looks, the flow area is much better with it than with a 'tight' fitting smooth cover. If I was convinced that I could ride in heavy rain with no cover at all (except for an end trim ring), i'd do it. But I've yet to be convinced that is a good idea.
The worst part is I like the exposed filter with trim ring, just leery about rain intrusion.
The new smooth air cleaner cover from H-D, part 29153-07, leave very little air space between the cover and K&N filter HD-0800. The only open space is at the cut-out, at the bottom of the cover. So as ugly as the 'football' looks, the flow area is much better with it than with a 'tight' fitting smooth cover. If I was convinced that I could ride in heavy rain with no cover at all (except for an end trim ring), i'd do it. But I've yet to be convinced that is a good idea.
The worst part is I like the exposed filter with trim ring, just leery about rain intrusion.