95" cam?
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95" cam?
bike is 06 deuce having stage 2BB done next week would like to do gear drives but dealer says warranty is VOID if i do that heads are staying stock for now was also told upgraded se heads void warranty. 203 or 204 cam which is best choice thanks
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RE: 95" cam?
Warranty not void for motor except gear drive itself. Balance of motor IS warranteed by law.
I recommend an AndrewsTW-37G with gear drive.
SE heads should be warranteed if installed by a Harley dealer also.
Your dealer is full of crap.
I recommend an AndrewsTW-37G with gear drive.
SE heads should be warranteed if installed by a Harley dealer also.
Your dealer is full of crap.
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RE: 95" cam?
You are wasting your time and moneyon upgrading unless Some type of head work is done.
Air flow increase and smoothing,and compression increasearereasons to haveheadwork improved.
SE or HTCC heads for factory warranty, aftermarket for having your own heads worked on to savebucks possibly, plus other benefits.
Air flow increase and smoothing,and compression increasearereasons to haveheadwork improved.
SE or HTCC heads for factory warranty, aftermarket for having your own heads worked on to savebucks possibly, plus other benefits.
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RE: 95" cam?
203 cams will work good if you don't plan on doing anything to the heads. You're going to be disappointed with the Andrews 37 cams if you don't up the compression.
If you do non SE cams and high compression heads, you're going to have a hard time convincing H-D that they didn't contribute to a motor failure if you have one. H-D makes a 60 horsepower motor and guarantees it for 2 years. If you modify it so it makes 100 horsepower, you can't expect them to honor the warranty.
If you do non SE cams and high compression heads, you're going to have a hard time convincing H-D that they didn't contribute to a motor failure if you have one. H-D makes a 60 horsepower motor and guarantees it for 2 years. If you modify it so it makes 100 horsepower, you can't expect them to honor the warranty.
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RE: 95" cam?
Last year I was talking with the chief engine builder for Woody's Blowers. Since then I have talked with a few other local engine builders. According to all of them, the stock '06heads are very good. For a low rpm/high torque build, they don't need anything at all. For a high rpm/high HP build, they just need a little clean up here and there. Unless you're building an all out effort motor, a full porting job isn't necessary. If that's the case, you'de probably want aftermarket heads anyway.
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RE: 95" cam?
ORIGINAL: murphdog
203 cams will work good if you don't plan on doing anything to the heads. You're going to be disappointed with the Andrews 37 cams if you don't up the compression.
If you do non SE cams and high compression heads, you're going to have a hard time convincing H-D that they didn't contribute to a motor failure if you have one. H-D makes a 60 horsepower motor and guarantees it for 2 years. If you modify it so it makes 100 horsepower, you can't expect them to honor the warranty.
203 cams will work good if you don't plan on doing anything to the heads. You're going to be disappointed with the Andrews 37 cams if you don't up the compression.
If you do non SE cams and high compression heads, you're going to have a hard time convincing H-D that they didn't contribute to a motor failure if you have one. H-D makes a 60 horsepower motor and guarantees it for 2 years. If you modify it so it makes 100 horsepower, you can't expect them to honor the warranty.
I have a 2003 SuperGlide.
88 C.I.
Stock heads and intake and pistons
Dynojetted stock CV carb
SE Stage 1 Air Cleaner Kit
Super Trapp SuperMegs 2:1 Exhaust
S&S Cam Gear Drive
Andrews TW 37G cams
HP 79.66
TQ 88.49
Here is my Dyno Sheet taken on a raw run, no tuning to dial in the best run.
No way in hell you can be dissapointed with the results!!! No Way!!!
The difference between theory and results!!!!
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RE: 95" cam?
ORIGINAL: bobcowan
Last year I was talking with the chief engine builder for Woody's Blowers. Since then I have talked with a few other local engine builders. According to all of them, the stock '06heads are very good. For a low rpm/high torque build, they don't need anything at all. For a high rpm/high HP build, they just need a little clean up here and there. Unless you're building an all out effort motor, a full porting job isn't necessary. If that's the case, you'de probably want aftermarket heads anyway.
Last year I was talking with the chief engine builder for Woody's Blowers. Since then I have talked with a few other local engine builders. According to all of them, the stock '06heads are very good. For a low rpm/high torque build, they don't need anything at all. For a high rpm/high HP build, they just need a little clean up here and there. Unless you're building an all out effort motor, a full porting job isn't necessary. If that's the case, you'de probably want aftermarket heads anyway.
My dealer did an in-house clean up to my heads, and my bike runs VERY well.