Deeley is done.
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From: Saskatchewan
We will still pay more for a Harley as well as Harley accessories. But with Deeley out of the picture may be we'll see a little competition between dealers. Right now I no longer try to get any deals out of a dealer. The prices are pretty much the same no matter where I go and they will not budge. The only way to get a deal on a new bike is to try to get a better trade in price on your old bike. New prices are not negotiable. Hopefully dealer willl be willing to do a little more negotiating.
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From: Alberta
More open competition between dealers won't be bad...but I can't see HD relaxing "export" rules on parts sales; unless Canada can get some kind of NAFTA ruling...most of the parts are NOT made in the US though; so that precludes a NAFTA exemption, I believe. As for sales to other foreign countries, that's more about those nationals trying to avoid their own taxes.
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From: Idaho
I'm not a tech, but I assume that the majority are trained at MMI and similar schools. There are many vocational schools that teach motorcycle maintenance and repair.
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From: Edmonton, Alberta
We will still pay more for a Harley as well as Harley accessories. But with Deeley out of the picture may be we'll see a little competition between dealers. Right now I no longer try to get any deals out of a dealer. The prices are pretty much the same no matter where I go and they will not budge. The only way to get a deal on a new bike is to try to get a better trade in price on your old bike. New prices are not negotiable. Hopefully dealer willl be willing to do a little more negotiating.
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From: Southern Ontario, Canada...EH!
Big Kahuna HDF Member
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From: Southern Ontario, Canada...EH!
I will have to go and ask my buddy (Harley Tech) how the training is done here in Canada, and what he thinks this will do to change that.
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From: Blaine, WA
A bunch of them in Toronto were given their 3 month notice. I think Harley will put a distribution center up here in Canada and ship from there to the dealers. If the prices come down a bit to be more reasonable more people will buy from the dealers here instead of going online to American dealers ( but who knows for sure ).
It's $1,000,000 before they will talk to you.
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From: Idaho
You guys are completely out of the ballpark on costs. From the Tim Horton's web site:
"The cost of a full Canadian franchise varies from $480,000 to $510,000* (CDN$) (plus all applicable taxes). At least $153,000 of the franchise cost must be unencumbered (cash or liquid assets), in addition to $50,000 in working capital (also unencumbered). The remaining amount may be financed through the chartered banks, upon approval of a franchise."
So, you need approximately CDN$200k in unencumbered assets, not a million. You borrow the rest.
"The cost of a full Canadian franchise varies from $480,000 to $510,000* (CDN$) (plus all applicable taxes). At least $153,000 of the franchise cost must be unencumbered (cash or liquid assets), in addition to $50,000 in working capital (also unencumbered). The remaining amount may be financed through the chartered banks, upon approval of a franchise."
So, you need approximately CDN$200k in unencumbered assets, not a million. You borrow the rest.
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From: Osoyoos B C Canada