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Old Oct 10, 2015 | 07:38 PM
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I would agree with you on the FXDF. I have a Fat Bob and a RKC. The RKC is nice to ride topless but taking the bags off leaves a lot of ugly in the back. My Fat Bob feels and rides like a skinny and sportier King.
Out riding today on the King and was thinking. The MOCO should do something about cleaning up the fender on the Kings and come out with a Road King Sport. Something you could take the windshield and the bags off and have a day runner. There are times when it would be nice to run topless and skinny.

Not everyone wants a stereo and a GPS.

They made a move in that direction with the trikes with the Free Wheeler. Now they need to clean up the FLH.
 
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Old Oct 11, 2015 | 07:28 AM
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Originally Posted by AGSURFR
Out riding today on the King and was thinking. The MOCO should do something about cleaning up the fender on the Kings and come out with a Road King Sport. Something you could take the windshield and the bags off and have a day runner. There are times when it would be nice to run topless and skinny.

Not everyone wants a stereo and a GPS.

They made a move in that direction with the trikes with the Free Wheeler. Now they need to clean up the FLH.
+1 I'd be all over getting me one!
 
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Old Oct 11, 2015 | 07:52 AM
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Originally Posted by AGSURFR
Out riding today on the King and was thinking. The MOCO should do something about cleaning up the fender on the Kings and come out with a Road King Sport. Something you could take the windshield and the bags off and have a day runner. There are times when it would be nice to run topless and skinny.

Not everyone wants a stereo and a GPS.

They made a move in that direction with the trikes with the Free Wheeler. Now they need to clean up the FLH.
Everyone talks about what they would like in a motorcycle that the MOCO does not offer. Yes, the FX 74ci was a successful experiment in lightening a FLT. I know because I bought one. At the time all were sold out for as far as I could phone call around the area for availability. Remember, long before the internet.

During that time the aftermarket custom parts market started evolving and offer5ing parts t customize your bike yourself. Before that time, custom parts were very limited such as a Bates headlight, fenders, and longer fork tubes thanks to Forking by Frank. If you wanted something different, you: either had your friend or yourself design & make it. You could hang around your local INDY which you could glean ideas form those who have the same like interests as you. Does anyone remember the local bike builder or custom shop that Harley Davidson is trying to eliminate with such practices as not selling any HD parts to them if they are a business.

I, for one, will avoid purchasing any HD overpriced and poor quality Chinese made part for my own bike. What happened to that time when if you can dream it, you made it. This manufacturing mounting points that look good and are easily removable are not that hard to do. Just think about it, design than implement your one off, totally unique, invention. Put a Chinese party member out of a job and do not go to the many vendors selling those types of products and hire your local American. By the time I wrote this post I have already thought of a way to do that job and it was surprisingly easy to do. Just get off of that hind MOCO teat and enjoy exercising some gray matter, ask around and find a skilled local person (networking), and not only you will feel better about yourself but maybe enjoy another persons company that you would have never had the need to do previously. Now get off the *** and do something about what you want out of your bike.
 
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Old Oct 11, 2015 | 09:46 AM
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Well; a little perusal of current HD spec's shows that the FLH's have adopted the 49mm front end...since the rake is different, a Road King front end should just slide into a set of Dyna trees, not? This would preclude wading thru the aftermarket swamp for those who would rather not. Done to a Street Bob, this could be a revived FLHS...all while at the dealer of your choice. I wouldn't be surprised if HD tried this in the near future; they're known to use obvious mixes of parts at times to make "new" models...any photoshoppers out there wanna try this?
 
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Old Oct 11, 2015 | 12:18 PM
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Originally Posted by M249johnny
Yep it will be for sale! It's a Swift Custom from Arizona. Model: Lucky Strike 2007. Only 3k miles on the Evo engine. Upgrades include:
Mikuni HSR42 carb
Rear belt drive conversion
Screaming Eagle pushrods
Woods W6 cam
I'm asking 7k. Give me a holler.
Thanks for the reply. Have you had any problems with it?

I read up some, and didn't like what I found.

http://cyrilhuzeblog.com/2010/02/22/...es-is-it-over/
 
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Old Oct 11, 2015 | 12:27 PM
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Originally Posted by sharkey
Well; a little perusal of current HD spec's shows that the FLH's have adopted the 49mm front end...since the rake is different, a Road King front end should just slide into a set of Dyna trees, not? This would preclude wading thru the aftermarket swamp for those who would rather not. Done to a Street Bob, this could be a revived FLHS...all while at the dealer of your choice. I wouldn't be surprised if HD tried this in the near future; they're known to use obvious mixes of parts at times to make "new" models...any photoshoppers out there wanna try this?
The FLH fork will not slip into a 2006~current FXD or even the FXDWG because the fork tubes measure:

2006~Current Details : FXD GM Dyna SG, FXDC GV SF Custom, 07~08, FXDB/I GX 06~08 Street Bob, FXD35 GW (EFI) SG, FXDCI Super Glide Custom, FXDL & /I- GN Dyna Low Rider (06~08), FXDWG & /I - GP (06 & 08), FXDWG GP 105 Anv. (08) Stock 25.5”/647mm Measured; 46605-06

2006~Current: FXDWGI Dyna Wide Glide Stock 27.913"/707mm Measured; 46617-06


& the 2014 FLT (All) ~ Current: 580mm/22.834" Measured; PN#: 4550113.


The 2014 ~ current FLT sliders can install on your 49mm Dyna's, no problem. The good is now your caliper mounting tabs are where they should be and the HD FLT & VCR (V-Rod) Brembo calipers will bolt right on with 300mm rotors. The problems are that the FLT sliders are much shorter than the FXD and there is no dust seal (chromed one) cover can fit on without modifications. The scraper seal does & can push in but I have not tried it. A while ago I thought of the same thing as I have a 2004 FXDL and purchased FXDB black trees and put on my Bagger C/F front & rear wheels on it with V-Rod sliders & my adapters and real Brembo calipers. I chose a Street Stalker front (8 Oz) fender & 130/90/16 Metzeler Marathon front tire. That fills the fender pretty good and is a large sidewall for comfort.


I have since took that fork apart and purchased a set of FLHTCUTG (Tri Glide) sliders because they are longer and I am making a set of spacers that bolt to the underneath of the bottom tree so the "Beer Cans" can be of proper length because I wanted a FLT looking fork on my FXDL.



I purchased a $550+ new FLD headlight that I thought would just bolt right on. The nightmare began there. I know that a Softail & shovel freight train nacelle will not work because the top 49mm FXDF fork clamp is way too large in diameter and will never fit over and retain the same cone shape of the nacelle. The best choice for nacelle is a FLD but unless you are very talented and have full use of a complete machine shop and prepared to spend more than 3 working days on it, you will never get it done. It is much cheaper to buy one of the aftermarket quality bat wing or Road Glide fairing and lighting. Of course I will manufacture the FLD because it is very hard to do it and very few people will duplicate it. The reason why I would never put on a 41mm fork is because of the lack of ridgedness inherent of a spindly 41mm & the fact that I only ride with 30mm fully adjustable cartridges which requires a 43mm or larger fork tube.



Before the FLHTCUTG (Tri Glide) sliders. I will finish this up when I get the time.







The Dynas require a 800mm fork, all other fork tubes are just too short. The above is how I know these things.
 
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Old Oct 11, 2015 | 01:30 PM
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Originally Posted by FastHarley
Everyone talks about what they would like in a motorcycle that the MOCO does not offer. Yes, the FX 74ci was a successful experiment in lightening a FLT. I know because I bought one. At the time all were sold out for as far as I could phone call around the area for availability. Remember, long before the internet.

During that time the aftermarket custom parts market started evolving and offer5ing parts t customize your bike yourself. Before that time, custom parts were very limited such as a Bates headlight, fenders, and longer fork tubes thanks to Forking by Frank. If you wanted something different, you: either had your friend or yourself design & make it. You could hang around your local INDY which you could glean ideas form those who have the same like interests as you. Does anyone remember the local bike builder or custom shop that Harley Davidson is trying to eliminate with such practices as not selling any HD parts to them if they are a business.

I, for one, will avoid purchasing any HD overpriced and poor quality Chinese made part for my own bike. What happened to that time when if you can dream it, you made it. This manufacturing mounting points that look good and are easily removable are not that hard to do. Just think about it, design than implement your one off, totally unique, invention. Put a Chinese party member out of a job and do not go to the many vendors selling those types of products and hire your local American. By the time I wrote this post I have already thought of a way to do that job and it was surprisingly easy to do. Just get off of that hind MOCO teat and enjoy exercising some gray matter, ask around and find a skilled local person (networking), and not only you will feel better about yourself but maybe enjoy another persons company that you would have never had the need to do previously. Now get off the *** and do something about what you want out of your bike.
So now I am going to guess you are typing this on your made in USA keyboard while scrolling with your made in USA mouse. Staring at your made in the USA monitor with you computer you bought from a local guy that built it for you from components he sourced from American companies based on their using parts assembled by US workers.

Or did you just go to a big box store and got the best deal you could get?
 
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Old Oct 11, 2015 | 04:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Larry64
That was later, '74 ish?? FXE.
I din't see ANY mention of years in the initial posting
 
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Old Oct 11, 2015 | 05:52 PM
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Originally Posted by AGSURFR
So now I am going to guess you are typing this on your made in USA keyboard while scrolling with your made in USA mouse. Staring at your made in the USA monitor with you computer you bought from a local guy that built it for you from components he sourced from American companies based on their using parts assembled by US workers.

Or did you just go to a big box store and got the best deal you could get?
Am I missing something here? What does that have anything to do with the subject we are talking about? We are talking about making & personalizing your own bike. I am referring to making it your own, on your own if no one makes it and if they really wish it. I do not believe I am talking about computers, however, the bike I ride as an everyday rider is an ASAP and many parts are one off because no one makes what I wanted.

But, again, getting off your *** and creating something is exactly what I am talking about. I am sorry but I really do not understand your post nor its point?
 

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Old Oct 11, 2015 | 06:37 PM
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Am I missing something here? What does that have anything to do with the subject we are talking about? We are talking about making & personalizing your own bike. I am referring to making it your own, on your own if no one makes it and if they really wish it. I do not believe I am talking about computers, however, the bike I ride as an everyday rider is an ASAP and many parts are one off because no one makes what I wanted.

But, again, getting off your *** and creating something is exactly what I am talking about. I am sorry but I really do not understand your post nor its point?

My point is many people do not have the knowledge, skills or equipment to make it in their own shop. You are the one that threw in made in China comments. Many people need to buy their ride off the shelf. I find it very hypocritical when people brag on how they don't support China while using products made in China.

My bikes do not see the inside of the dealership except for warranty work. When I have the time I do all the work myself and when I don't I have several indie shops that take very good care of my rides.

Back on topic... I still think a Road King Sport or true convertible would do very well in the market. A few years ago there was a company that was making fender skirts for when you took off the bags. Not the prettiest conversion but it did cover up the hardware.
 
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