Screaming Eagle = Let Down
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Well that explains why I didn't have any problems. I put the Tips on the Mufflers before I installed the Mufflers on the Bike.
From the instructions (see attached Harley Instruction Sheet Document # J04046) which I didn't read either, for installing the End Caps.
"NOTE: Install end caps on mufflers before installing mufflers on vehicle."
From the instructions (see attached Harley Instruction Sheet Document # J04046) which I didn't read either, for installing the End Caps.
"NOTE: Install end caps on mufflers before installing mufflers on vehicle."
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Well that explains why I didn't have any problems. I put the Tips on the Mufflers before I installed the Mufflers on the Bike.
From the instructions (see attached Harley Instruction Sheet Document # J04046) which I didn't read either, for installing the End Caps.
"NOTE: Install end caps on mufflers before installing mufflers on vehicle."
From the instructions (see attached Harley Instruction Sheet Document # J04046) which I didn't read either, for installing the End Caps.
"NOTE: Install end caps on mufflers before installing mufflers on vehicle."
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The Baffle may not be physically secured to the Chrome exterior Shell of the Muffler during the manufacturing process. They may be relying on more of a friction fit between the Baffle and the Shell than anything else. The Baffle probably has it's own exterior shell to minimize Blueing of the exterior Chrome Shell. This sort of a design would make sense given the differences in operating temperatures between the Baffle and the Chrome Shell that would be needed to prevent Blueing. When installing the Muffler on the Bike, without the End Caps in place, the Exhaust Header Pipe may contact the forward part of the Baffle thus pushing the Baffle ever so slightly to the rear of the Shell and forcing the gap that we see in your picture. Installing the Caps on the Mufflers, before installing the Mufflers on the Bike would prevent this rearward movement of the Baffle during installation of the Muffler on the Bike. In fact it this installation procedure may actually be designed to position the Baffle in the Exterior Shell in a way that accommodates any manufacturing variables.
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44 posts later we come to the truth of the matter. OP didn't follow the instructions and decided to use the energy to post a thread (with pictures mind you) about how dissapointed he was with HDMCO and Screaming Eagle products instead of trying to figure it out.
Now comes the moment of truth. Admit it, eat some crow and be the wiser for it. Or, do what most people do these days and when it comes to laying blame right where it belongs.
The second choice will make the next project just as difficult as putting on a pair of muffler tips.
Now comes the moment of truth. Admit it, eat some crow and be the wiser for it. Or, do what most people do these days and when it comes to laying blame right where it belongs.
The second choice will make the next project just as difficult as putting on a pair of muffler tips.
The Baffle may not be physically secured to the Chrome exterior Shell Of the Muffler during the manufacturing process. They may be relying on more of a friction fit between the Baffle and the Shell than anything else. The Baffle probably has it's own exterior shell to minimize Blueing of the exterior Chrome Shell. This sort of a design would make sense given the differences in operating temperatures between the Baffle and the Chrome Shell that would be needed to prevent Blueing. When installing the Muffler on the Bike, without the End Caps in place, the Exhaust Header Pipe may contact the forward part of the Baffle thus pushing the Baffle ever so slightly to the rear of the Shell and forcing the gap that we see in your picture. Installing the Caps on the Mufflers, before installing the Mufflers on the Bike would prevent this rearward movement of the Baffle during installation of the Muffler on the Bike. In fact it this installation procedure may actually be designed to position the Baffle in the Exterior Shell in a way that accommodates any manufacturing variables.
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The Baffle may not be physically secured to the Chrome exterior Shell of the Muffler during the manufacturing process. They may be relying on more of a friction fit between the Baffle and the Shell than anything else. The Baffle probably has it's own exterior shell to minimize Blueing of the exterior Chrome Shell. This sort of a design would make sense given the differences in operating temperatures between the Baffle and the Chrome Shell that would be needed to prevent Blueing. When installing the Muffler on the Bike, without the End Caps in place, the Exhaust Header Pipe may contact the forward part of the Baffle thus pushing the Baffle ever so slightly to the rear of the Shell and forcing the gap that we see in your picture. Installing the Caps on the Mufflers, before installing the Mufflers on the Bike would prevent this rearward movement of the Baffle during installation of the Muffler on the Bike. In fact it this installation procedure may actually be designed to position the Baffle in the Exterior Shell in a way that accommodates any manufacturing variables.
Now tell me again how putting the end caps on first is fixing the issue?
If the slip on makes contact with the baffle during installation its still going to move that baffle forward (while riding) with or without the caps installed.
It is also not a friction fit, there are 3 screws that secure the baffle to the chrome housing.
Look at the photo on the 1st page in this thread of the screw hole in the baffle versus metal housing. It is pretty clear why people are getting 1/8 gaps in there tips. The baffle screw is walking the difference in screw hole diameter.
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Uhm, I have V&H Big Shot's and the baffle and end cap are not connected at all, there are different holes to screw the end cap and baffle,, they are nowhere near each other. The baffles are quite a bit more forward.
Maybe the Big Shots are different.
But if you have fixed yours all is good right?
Maybe the Big Shots are different.
But if you have fixed yours all is good right?
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Uhm, I have V&H Big Shot's and the baffle and end cap are not connected at all, there are different holes to screw the end cap and baffle,, they are nowhere near each other. The baffles are quite a bit more forward.
Maybe the Big Shots are different.
But if you have fixed yours all is good right?
Maybe the Big Shots are different.
But if you have fixed yours all is good right?
The issue now are statements by others that do not add up.
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Well the best thing to do now would be to just let this thread die, and go to be with the other threads that have passed on before LOL