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Old Oct 5, 2017 | 08:07 PM
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10/5/2017

This email is to inform you of an upcoming court event involving the defendant RONNIE ROBINSON and court case number 16NMCR00624. A(n) Motions has been scheduled for 10/10/2017 at 1:00 PM. This will take place in New Madrid Cty Circuit Court, located at: 450 Main Street in New Madrid, MO 63869.

If you plan to attend the hearing, be sure to check with the prosecutor's office to make sure the hearing is still set. You should telephone the day before the hearing, as last minute continuances are often granted. For more information, contact the office responsible for this case. The telephone number is (573)748-2228.

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10/10/2017

This email is to inform you of an upcoming court event involving the defendant RONNIE ROBINSON and court case number 16NMCR00624. A(n) Return Scheduled has been scheduled for 10/24/2017 at 10:00 AM. This will take place in New Madrid Cty Circuit Court, located at: 450 Main Street in New Madrid, MO 63869.

If you plan to attend the hearing, be sure to check with the prosecutor's office to make sure the hearing is still set. You should telephone the day before the hearing, as last minute continuances are often granted. For more information, contact the office responsible for this case. The telephone number is (573)748-2228.

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Seems to me they keep kicking the can down the road here.
 

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Old Oct 10, 2017 | 06:15 AM
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Originally Posted by Back-n-Black
Seems to me they keep kicking the can down the road here.

Of course they do. It can go years as long as defendants continue to waive their rights to a speedy trial and clog the system with postponements, pre-trial motions and continuances.


Not to mention that over time, witnesses move and maybe can't be contacted, their memories fade or they die off also evidence degrades or is lost or mishandled. There are so many things that can affect a solid murder case and the defense will strive to take advantage of all of them. But I hope this one has a proper ending with the guilty parties all swinging at the end of a rope in the town square.

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That depends on who is on the jury,Paul. They should be shot while hanging as 1000volts / 100 amps pumped through their bodies....

...over an open fire!
 

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Old Oct 10, 2017 | 06:34 AM
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Those punishments are too kind. One of my favourites I hear they use in Africa is a burning tire hung around your neck. Wouldn't that suck. I wonder if that would be a better deterrent against crime if they knew that could be their fate?
 
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Old Oct 10, 2017 | 08:05 PM
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Total Bullshit

10/10/2017

This email is to inform you that a court event involving the defendant RONNIE ROBINSON and court case number 16NMCR00624 has been cancelled. The event was scheduled for 10/24/2017. We will notify you again once this court event has been rescheduled.

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Old Oct 10, 2017 | 08:08 PM
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It kind of makes a person think it is a deliberate attempt to prevent a bunch of bikers showing up.
 
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Old Oct 10, 2017 | 08:22 PM
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It kind of makes a person think it is a deliberate attempt to prevent a bunch of bikers showing up.
If the Attorney representing these worthless pieces of human filth is worth a crap..... That's exactly whats going on.
 
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I received4 emails from MOVANS stating the new dates were 10/24,25,26 and 27???
 
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Old Oct 11, 2017 | 05:57 AM
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Originally Posted by bklynbob
I received4 emails from MOVANS stating the new dates were 10/24,25,26 and 27???

Look again...

The event was scheduled for 10/24/2017.
 
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Old Nov 8, 2017 | 05:29 PM
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Just so you folks know what the most recent delay was caused by:

Cut and paste from DA Lawson's email to me dated 10-10-17

John,


Where do I begin? As of today, Monday, we are a go for trial at the end of the month. The defense has filed a Motion for Continuance. Judge Copeland has taken their Motion under advisement and we should have his decision tomorrow (Tuesday).


I have opposed their Motion for Continuance. However, due to circumstances that we never could have predicted, a continuance might be necessary.


As we had previously discussed, Ronnie Robinson and his wife were being represented by the same attorney, which I had a major problem with. I notified their attorney that I would be willing to offer Elsie Robinson a better deal if she would be willing to cooperate and testify against her husband. Once I made that offer, I created a conflict that made it impossible for him to represent both of them. He could not advise one of his clients whether or not they should testify against the other. So on September 29, Elsie Robinson fired her attorney. She then made application to be represented by the Missouri State Public Defender’s Office. That afternoon when law enforcement went to talk to her, she told them that she wasn’t going to talk to them until she is assigned an attorney. Which was understandable.


However, on Monday, October 2nd the Missouri State Public Defender’s Office put judges and prosecutors on notice that the ENTIRE public defender’s system is overworked and they are not accepting any new clients. Basically they have gone on strike, despite not being allowed to do so by law. The Missouri criminal justice system has been in utter chaos for the past two weeks. Lawsuits are being considered. Judges are threating to hold public defenders in contempt and lock them up.


As angry as I am with the public defenders for this latest stunt, what pisses me off the most is the fact that Elise Robinson hasn’t been assigned an attorney, which needs to happen before she will speak with law enforcement.


Of course there is always the possibility that, after she gets an attorney, she decides not to flip on her husband. So this is why I think I will have to agree to a continuance. I need to know what Elsie Robinson is going to do. If she flips… great. If she doesn’t, I will refile my motion to try her and her husband at the same time. Ronnie Robinson is a bad guy who did the really bad stuff. Other than being there, I don’t have a lot to specifically pin on Elsie Robinson. You and I know that in the eyes of the law they are just as guilty as the other for acting in concert together. However, juries tend to be more sympathetic towards women. I want the same jury that decides Ronnie’s fate to decide Elsie’s. My goal is that they will be so enraged at Ronnie that they won’t give any mercy on Elsie.


So despite the fact that my subpoenas are served and despite the fact that I have spent every Saturday and Sunday for the past month (and today which is a holiday) in my office working on this case, I need to know what Elsie Robinson is going to do before I try Ronnie. And with the way things are going right now, I don’t see that issue being resolved in the next week.
 
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Old Nov 8, 2017 | 05:39 PM
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Thanks John. What a shitshow. But at least the DA is dedicated and it feels like he will see this through to the proper conclusion.
 
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