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Old Nov 4, 2016 | 02:48 PM
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Take the derby cover off after putting the jiffy stand on a piece of 2x4 then carefully hold the bike upright., and check for level on the clutch basket. I've started using M1 v-twin in the primary on my RGU, no problems with it. A bit pricey, yes, but it takes the heat IMO.
 
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Old Nov 4, 2016 | 06:20 PM
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I will check the primary level first chance I get from my honey-do list this weekend, then report back.

I did the 38oz cited in the manual: I added the quart, then measured 6oz.

Odd about the Formula+. I did a good bit of browsing the forums here and other sites, and it seemed Formula+ was a very popular choice. Since this was my first fluid change with a Harley I tried to go with consensus. The Mobil 1 is nearly a no brainer for the engine, and Belray was popular enough for the tranny. Redline was a close second, and no "third" I could truly discern. Syn3 seemed universally way down the list of choices.
 
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Old Nov 4, 2016 | 06:37 PM
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Make sure you have a warmed up engine and tranny when you change the fluids. Ride the bike for at least 20 minutes before-hand. Otherwise, the level checks will be off.
 
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Old Nov 4, 2016 | 06:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Route66
Make sure you have a warmed up engine and tranny when you change the fluids. Ride the bike for at least 20 minutes before-hand. Otherwise, the level checks will be off.
I did. Rode 30 minutes. So I should ride until warm before I check the primary again, yes?
 

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Old Nov 5, 2016 | 12:44 AM
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Originally Posted by RomeoTango
I did. Rode 30 minutes. So I should ride until warm before I check the primary again, yes?
Do it the way your Harley Davidson Service Manual says to.
 
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Old Nov 5, 2016 | 07:38 AM
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When in doubt take a ride. That's a good rule generally in approaching life.
 
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Old Nov 5, 2016 | 08:52 AM
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There is only one thing that needs lubrication in the primary, the primary chain.
The clutch plates work wet or dry.
Overfilling or too thick a fluid will cause problems like yours.

Drain out that belray stuff and pour in a quart of regular tranny fluid.

You just need enough fluid for the clutch hub to sling around the inside of the primary thus creating a hurricane inside your primary and lubricating your primary chain.

One quart will work just fine.
 
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Old Nov 5, 2016 | 10:05 AM
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Originally Posted by texashillcountry
There is only one thing that needs lubrication in the primary, the primary chain.
The clutch plates work wet or dry.
Overfilling or too thick a fluid will cause problems like yours.

Drain out that belray stuff and pour in a quart of regular tranny fluid.

You just need enough fluid for the clutch hub to sling around the inside of the primary thus creating a hurricane inside your primary and lubricating your primary chain.

One quart will work just fine.
I have Formula+ in the Primary (Belray is in the transmission). The quart vs 38oz cited the manual seems like it would be a big difference. Unless, I suppose, I did not drain enough? I did sit the bike up straight a couple times to let as much as possible drain out.
 
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As has been previously stated, with bike sitting level.
 
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Originally Posted by RomeoTango
I have Formula+ in the Primary (Belray is in the transmission). The quart vs 38oz cited the manual seems like it would be a big difference. Unless, I suppose, I did not drain enough? I did sit the bike up straight a couple times to let as much as possible drain out.
I'm not totally up on the newer bikes but IIRC, Harley went with a new style Compensator in '14. Maybe that's why they spec 38 oz. in the Primary. Don't trust the health of your bike to what guys say on an internet forum. Buy the HD manual!
 
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