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Old Jan 4, 2017 | 07:58 AM
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I've tipped my new CVO Limited twice now. Once, coming to a stop at an angle on an incline where my foot didn't touch the ground on the low side, and once stopping while in a turning configuration. From those experiences I've learned 'the hard way':
1. Always have the nose pointed directly uphill when you come to a stop on an incline, and;
2. Always straighten up before stopping.

I'm really not a glutton for punishment, and would prefer to learn 'the easy way' from now on. So, what other tips do you have to prevent tipping?
 

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Old Jan 4, 2017 | 08:13 AM
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Don't use the front brakes at low speeds while the bars are turned
Be cautious of where you stop and take note of uneven surface, oil spots, inclines, loose gravel, etc.
 
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Old Jan 4, 2017 | 08:18 AM
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At the risk of sounding condescending, that's the basic kind of stuff they teach at basic safety training courses.

Be that as it may, the lessons that stick are the ones learned the hard way.

Hope no damage was done.
 
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Old Jan 4, 2017 | 08:41 AM
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Myself as others seem to learn from our mistakes, just human nature.
 
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Old Jan 4, 2017 | 08:47 AM
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Originally Posted by Mike Lawless
At the risk of sounding condescending, that's the basic kind of stuff they teach at basic safety training courses.

Be that as it may, the lessons that stick are the ones learned the hard way.

Hope no damage was done.
Yup, what Mike said. I would look into a safety course. They have different courses for varying levels of experience from basic up to what the police bikes go through. It will save your bike and you from bumps and bruises. Also things to look out for on the road, coming up to intersections. Lots of good info that will save your *** if your a new rider.
 
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Old Jan 4, 2017 | 08:51 AM
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I think the two best insights have been offered and can summarized as pick where you stop carefully, and don't use you're front brake at low speeds, especially while turning.

I know I'll get jumped on for the pick your spot part. I do know sometimes you don't have a choice. But I have seen many a rider roll right into a bad situation and inexplicable choose that place to stop. Look for oil, gravel, dirt, inclines, etc and plan ahead if you can.

When you can't do that, learning how to stop with one foot down is good form. You don't become so dependent on traction as much as balance. The norm is to put your left foot down/right foot on brake. But on a right hand incline, you will need your right foot - and balance. It takes practice and it's a lot easier for a tall guy like me, I'll admit.

Other things that can help is to lower your center of gravity. Removable tourpack takes 50 lbs from the highest part of your bike. A lower seat helps too.

Good luck and be safe.
 
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Old Jan 4, 2017 | 09:21 AM
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I am not sure how long you have been riding. I learned most of my do's and do not do's when I was young and a lot of years on a dirt bike, I am not comparing the two, dirt and street just fundamentals. Sometimes we all learn the hard way. So far I have been very fortunate.

My tip to you is......... Use good common sense.
 

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Old Jan 4, 2017 | 09:35 AM
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Originally Posted by VegasGeorge
I've tipped my new CVO Limited twice now. Once, coming to a stop at an angle on an incline where my foot didn't touch the ground on the low side, and once stopping while in a turning configuration. From those experiences I've learned 'the hard way':
1. Always have the nose pointed directly uphill when you come to a stop on an incline, and;
2. Always straighten up before stopping.

I'm really not a gluten for punishment, and would prefer to learn 'the easy way' from now on. So, what other tips do you have to prevent tipping?
Your "#2" is what is taught in the MSF BRC (Basic Rider Course.) This is covered ad nauseum within the course. Did you apply front brake while leaned over? For novices, this is a no-no.

As far as "#1" goes, always plan ahead what you are going to do as far as leaning the bike towards the uphill side. This will make it a shorter reach for your foot. It also reduces the chance of having your pant cuff catch onto the rubber foot peg end. Or your boot lace on the shifter end. Or your foot landing on the peg instead of the ground, causing the bike to begin to lean.

In short, take a course. It really can help you develop strategies to become a more confident rider.
 
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I once dropped a Road King on a highway shoulder. My boot lowered onto gravel (also known as marbles) and down I went.
Lesson learned, surface appraisal when stopping.
 
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Old Jan 4, 2017 | 10:41 AM
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Jerry "The Motorman" Palladino from https://www.ridelikeapro.com/, state if you are looking down to the ground, your are going down with the bike.
 

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