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Old Aug 22, 2017 | 10:31 AM
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There are dealerships and then there are stealerships.
Please define "stealership".
 
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Old Aug 22, 2017 | 11:31 AM
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Originally Posted by RK4ME
Please define "stealership".
I don't like the term stealership, but it's pretty much self explanatory. A good dealership provides quality merchandise, competent service at a fair price and profit margin. Cultivates long term relationships, instead of gouging a one time sale.

A stealership gouges at every opportunity, makes excuses instead of competent repairs, and relief on a steady flow of new suckers, instead of repeat business.
 
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Old Aug 22, 2017 | 12:13 PM
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Perfectly stated Ron. ^^^

It's easy to say just walk away from a bad dealer, i.e. stealership. But sometimes you can't. Perfect example - Chuck's Deluxe. The term "highway robbery" absolutely fits.
 
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Old Aug 22, 2017 | 05:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Ron750
I don't like the term stealership, but it's pretty much self explanatory. A good dealership provides quality merchandise, competent service at a fair price and profit margin. Cultivates long term relationships, instead of gouging a one time sale.

A stealership gouges at every opportunity, makes excuses instead of competent repairs, and relief on a steady flow of new suckers, instead of repeat business.
That implies Larceny where none was involved. I just label dealerships as Good or Bad.
Actually, a mechanic at a dealership stole some parts from me, but when I mentioned it to the cashier, he went and got new ones off the shelf with no discussion, so I can't really call them a stealership. That dealership has changed ownership twice since then.
 
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Old Aug 22, 2017 | 06:16 PM
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If I'm not mistaken, if the 2016 bikes have never been titled the factory must issue a full warranty to any buyer that first titles it? Regardless of the date purchased.
That must have been a "sales line" back in 2011 when the dealer I was shopping still had 2009 Road Kings in stock. He claimed it was one of the reasons why he was offering a "low price" and that I should buy it "now".
 
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Old Aug 22, 2017 | 09:02 PM
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Possibly they had an inkling of how bad the new ones were going to be?
 
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Have you seen the new 2018s? Of course they marked up the leftovers!! Nobody is going to buy their new monoshock bullshit frames.
 
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Old Aug 22, 2017 | 11:30 PM
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Have you seen the new 2018s? Of course they marked up the leftovers!! Nobody is going to buy their new monoshock bullshit frames.
They're engineered for the M8 engine. Maybe the old Dyna frames just weren't up for it.
 
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Originally Posted by Ron750
I don't like the term stealership, but it's pretty much self explanatory. A good dealership provides quality merchandise, competent service at a fair price and profit margin. Cultivates long term relationships, instead of gouging a one time sale.

A stealership gouges at every opportunity, makes excuses instead of competent repairs, and relief on a steady flow of new suckers, instead of repeat business.
Perfect definition.

And you'll see more stealerships in all genres (cars, bikes, boats, motor/powersports, etc.) if they're the only dealer in the general area. If HD Forums Harley is the only dealership for 150 miles, then they're not as worried about competition and can put higher prices on their stuff. Then you have DC4MVP Harley where there's 4 Harley dealers within a 20 minute car ride who has to keep their prices competitive or else people will walk right out the door to the next dealer.

I don't know the amount of dealers in every state but I know in Minnesota and North Texas, you're never more than 20 miles from another dealer around the cities. That eliminates a lot of stealerships.

There are some "stealerships" that do have a lot of competition in the area, though....
 
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